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Understand -- howard: everybody doesn't speak latin. [laughter] >> so, you know, they are paying attention. they know they have to move of the needle on this, and i'm not sure they've gotten there yet. they may next week. howard: when president trump says this is a joke, this is a witch hunt, this is russia all over again, the hearings shouldn't be allowed, most of the media is pretty dismissive of that. do you have the sense that the press is sort of taking sides here? in facting they're somewhat heavily invested in impeachment? >> credible polling has about a quarter of america think this is...

Representing donald trump in his personal capacity, then he has an ethical obligation to pursue donald trump's personal interest. the problem is he's so involved in foreign policy that that's a concern because to the extent that the u.s.'s interest diverges at all from donald trump's personal interest, he is ethically obligated to pursue donald trump's personal interest. and we as a country watching him so deeply involved in the ukraine have to be concerned that what's happening there is the facting of trump's personal interest, rather than the country's interest. >> yeah, representing the pre...

Prices, flat-out. >> from there, the attacks on biden continued on a number of fronts including this exchange with senator cory booker of new jersey who alternated tonight between warning democrats not to attack to attack each other and also afacting joe biden. >> mr. vice president, you can't have it both ways. you invoke president obama more than anybody in this campaign. you can't do it when it's convenient and then dodge it when it's not. and the second thing, and this really irks me because i heard the vice president say, it if you got a ph.d. you can come right into this country. well, t...

Truch hotel and golf course and three days after that, the president tweet ed about wantin to save zte. are you concerned this could be a relationship there? >> i'm not familiar with the iteming and facting surrounding that. we heard about this for the first time yesterday. so i'm not going to suggest there's anything wrong at the stage of the game, but i'll the tell you what in the united states senate and in the house, when those types of accusations are made, we do our due diligence, come back and ask the questions and there are appropriate places to do it. in this case, when he gave us the...

They're clearly telling him the same thing that his former lawyers were tell iing him. which is leave rod rosenstein alone right now. leave jeff sessions alone right now. congress, republicans in congress are facting with him. let members of congress have this fight with him. we don't want you to get involved. however, wolf, you know with this president, it's very unpredict bable! very. wonders every day what's going to happen. >> especially rosenstein. >> good work. thank you. just ahead, why did the head of the epa share an expensive meal with a cardinal accused of sex abuse who's also a cli...