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The way, put out his statement saying there was no collusion, it was almost as if the special counsel's office saying well, wait a minute, there's this papadopolous guy you may what to think about. >> it may well have been. if he was proactively cooperating that's over now. there was a reason to keep it quiet, perhaps mueller decided that this was a better use of -- he either wasn't being productive or it's time to shut it down because the president comes out and says this has nothing to do with the russia case and he wants to say we do have something on that too, here it is. >> let's pull up ...

Out that they didn't do that, you know, that was all about the magnitsky act. you know, time and time again, we're actually seeing that there was that kind of communication. the question is, where did it go? >> well, and legitimately to that point, i mean you do not see any evidence thus far at least of any of these meeting offers being taken up outside of the trump jr. meeting, all the offers that papadopolous made, no one acted on them. that does help the administration here. >> it helps the administration and circling back to the way we started that's why it's foolish for the president to b...

That's opposition research. everybody does that. but collusion or conspiracy requires the violation of a federal law in connection with that information. now, if these were hacked e-mails and papadopolous was aware that they were hacked, that's -- it might be a violation of federal law for him to use that stolen property in the campaign. now we've made out a criminal act. so that's why this is so important. it's the first little bit of build on the actual crime that could be charged ultimately. >> and the fact pattern doesn't look that dissimilar to what happened to donald trump, jr. holds a m...

Very personal going right to the heart of his character and i'm not sure what it accomplishes. >> and the statement of offense says this isn't all that he may have. makes you think what more does -- >> that statement was like a cliffhanger that ended with a moment of, you know -- >> but wait there's more. >> brian fallon to you, you know a thing or two about campaign vetting and who you surround yourself as a candidate and president. the president takes to twitter this morning and as we said he called papadopolous a low-level volunteer, a liar, check the dems. this is the same president who ca...

Our correspondents orrin and clarissa join us now. what else are we hearin from the russian government? >> the drum beat of denial coming from the kremlin and foreign ministry and other russian officials continues. they say this has nothing to do with us. it's an internal affair and that word hysteria long accused the u.s. as hysteria and see this as an extension. the indictments of manafort and gates have nothing to do with russia and say that part is an internal affairp whenned a skibts papadopolous meeting according to his guilty plea trying to set up a meeting between president trump and r...