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That forced the release of these e-mails, and i think of the people that are -- let me have a broad answer to your question, i don't know if it matters if there's particular information in these e-mails that really would determine in the minds of the lawmakers that think we have never got ton to the bottom of the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. so, if you're of a mind to do it and you're a republican in congress to control an investigation, you still may come back to work after new year's and say we need to have even more hearings. i say that and people should know, congress has already devote...

That's opposition research. everybody does that. but collusion or conspiracy requires the violation of a federal law in connection with that information. now, if these were hacked e-mails and papadopolous was aware that they were hacked, that's -- it might be a violation of federal law for him to use that stolen property in the campaign. now we've made out a criminal act. so that's why this is so important. it's the first little bit of build on the actual crime that could be charged ultimately. >> and the fact pattern doesn't look that dissimilar to what happened to donald trump, jr. holds a m...

Of what might be russian collusion. if you're looking form, you had to wait for rebecca ballhaus's scoop that came out tonight. there goes my pencil. remember that date again. that specific date when we learned the democratic documents that were stolen weren't randomly taking by some they'll. they were taken as part of a russian intelligence operation. that news first broke june 14th last year. when that happened, it was not subtle. it was everywhere. this was the initial report. russian government hackers penetrated dnc. that started a litany, a tornlt of reporting about that. the refers conf...

For the trump campaign at the time the overture happen. that still doesn't the implicate the trump campaign in that part of what might be russian collusion. if you're looking form, you had to wait for rebecca ballhaus's scoop that came out tonight. there goes my pencil. remember that date again. that specific date when we learned the democratic documents that were stolen weren't randomly taking by some they'll. they were taken as part of a russian intelligence operation. that news first broke june 14th last year. when that happened, it was not subtle. it was everywhere. this was the initial re...

>> reporter: on cnn's new day, their lawyer said the e-mails don't add up. >> it's just fantasy world because the reality is if there was something important that mr. agalarov wanted to communicate to the trump campaign, i suspect he could have called mr. trump directly as opposed to having his son's pop music publicist be the intermediary. >> pamela brown joins us now. i understand we heard from the father of the pop star today. what did he say? >> reporter: that's right. ross agalarov spoke to a radio station in the wake of the e-mail release. he said he doesn't personally know don junior. h...