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eastern town of soledar near bakhmut. a spokesman said ukrainian forces were fighting what he described as the best prepared units of russian wagner mercenaries. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. signing up for military service is a big deal. soldiers put their lives on the line for their country no questions asked. but what if the soldier has questions, doubts, doesn t believe in the mission? should personal morality ever trump the military code? well, my guest today thought so. former us army intelligence analyst chelsea manning was responsible for one of the biggest leaks of classified information in history and spent seven years in prison as a result. is transparency a justification for spilling state secrets? chelsea manning, welcome to hardtalk. good evening. thanks for having me. it s a great pleasure to have you. if i may, i want to begin with the decision that really changed, transformed your life. that is the decision t ....
sunshine will compensate, six to 11 degrees the high but as we go into friday night, here is that wet weather and in areas where we are already seeing those flood warnings out, so across parts of south west england, wales, across the majority of england as that system drifts steadily east and behind it we will see a cost of shop showers continuing through the day. a wet start to saturday however you look at it and the rain eases away, plenty of showers, some wintry through the tops of higher ground in scotland, a breezy afternoon but milder in the south east, i2 scotland, a breezy afternoon but milder in the south east, 12 degrees but noticeably cooler into the far north of scotland. that is worth bearing in mind because once we have saturday out of the way, north westerly wind takes over, look at this, blue tones and yes, those white blobs, any showers could turn wintry so be careful what you wish for because next week will turn colder, some night time frosts around an ....
Fundamental line in essence, to steal secrets and send them, notjust to anybody but to wikileaks, where you knew they would be exposed to the whole world? well, i mean, itried to reach out to the new york times and the washington post as well, so this was a. one of the things that i envisioned was a sort of a physical hand off to, like, a journalist and, like, a kind of a woodward and bernstein style hand off in parking garage or something along those lines, so that s why i came, that s why i went to the us during my leave and tried to contact more conventionaljournalists. right. in the end, you used the a computer in a book shop, i believe. yes. ..to dispatch this information and we should say vast, vast amounts of information. well, the so called iraq war logs and the afghan war diaries amounted to hundreds of thousands of separate pieces of information, right? right. but, i mean, like i worked with tens of millions of records every single day. so this is a. ....
That s why i went to the us during my leave and tried to contact more conventionaljournalists. right, in the end, you use the computer in a book shop, i believe, to dispatch this information and we should say vast, vast amounts of information. well, the so called iraq war logs and the afghan war diaries amounted to hundreds of thousands of separate pieces of information. right, but i mean, like i worked with tens of millions of records every single day. so this is still even a fraction of the kinds of information that we were collecting and using. i don t doubt that, but what i m getting to is the point that as these were hundreds of thousands of files, there is no way in the world that you had sifted them, filtered them, you just dumped them. no, i wouldn t characterise it as that. i the way that i view this is these are categorical types of information. so you have information. and this is this is obviously types of information that i m very familiar with, that i have worked. ..that ....
And like a kind of a woodward and bernstein style handoff in parking garage or something along those lines. so that s why i came. that s why i went to the us during my leave and tried to contact more conventionaljournalists. right. in the end, you used a computer in a book shop, i believe. yes. ..to dispatch this information, and we should say vast, vast amounts of information. the so called iraq war logs and the afghan war diaries amounted to hundreds of thousands of separate pieces of information, right? right. but i mean, like, iworked with tens of millions of records every single day. so this is still even a fraction of the kinds of information that we were collecting and using. i don t doubt that. but what i m getting to is the point that as these were hundreds of thousands of files, there is no way in the world that you d sifted them, filtered them, you just dumped them. no, i wouldn t characterise it as that. the way that i view this is these are categorical ....