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Look. right. you have a five-point lead. jonathan, you look where this election is going to be decided, the suburbs of atlanta, suburbs of philly, the suburbs of detroit, of milwaukee, maricopa county. yeah. those people that went away from donald trump, they ain t going back to donald trump. now, they may be like some of my friends and family members who just say, baden biden and trump, i m going to vote for everybody else and leave the top line empty. that s what happened in wisconsin to donald trump, as ron johnson explained. yes. help me. sure. in all of your reporting, help us all understand why republicans are still attracted to a guy that they know, most likely, is going to lose. well, i think the easy way to relate this is that you ve got two parties effectively under one tent now. you ve got traditional ....
Terrorists, right? this is a party all about the rule of law. right. the same thing with the justice department. the trump justice department. the trump fbi. they don t go after hillary clinton. they don t go after biden. donald trump tells them to, but they say, sorry, no crimes. we can t do it. yet, as charlie said, they have been spending years moving toward this moment, where they knew donald trump was going to get arrested. they undermined all of these institutions to try to tear them down, as charlie said, so people are numb to it in republican party. did he really steal nuclear secrets, military secrets? i m not exactly sure how they explain away the rape, the judge s conclusion of the rape, but they ll figure out a ay to do it. charlie brought up the word ....
Republicans, what i call kind of the pre-trump party, that still places the biggest premium on winning. they re making a cold-eyed assessment that trump can t win and they have to find an alternative. you see this in the u.s. senate. you see it among governors. certainly, you see it on the editorial pages of the wall street journal, which nearly every day is pleading with the republican party not to pick trump again. but you also have a post-trump party, which is significant. you see it there, that national survey, joe, that you posted. frankly, doesn t think trump lost the last time and thinks that he could win this time. simply does not believe the polling data. frankly, is attached to trump for reasons that are more fundamental than traditional american politics. he s the leader of their movement. they re not going to easily come off of him because they see a bad survey head-to-head against biden. i think that s the real challenge going to 24, is the republican party is bifurcate ....
Counts as two characters. he has said both things. he said he had ultimate authority and then he sort of hedged on that and said that he had authority and sort of in that letter that he wrote to the congressional committee where he was talking about trying to answer some of these questions, he said that he had he was geographicly limited meaning he didn t have the authority to press charges in d.c. or in california against biden, which runs completely counter to the larger message he was trying to make which is he had total authority. so i think talking to david weiss is going to be probably the most interesting part of all this other than shannon: if he is willing to do it. this brings hunter and all his baggage to the forefront at a time when his baggage was it wasn t a play on words there. but for the president has talked about he doesn t want to hear ....
On a classified documents, and they probably won t against biden. now, you, me and barbara know that what donald trump did with the classified documents is very, very different and he should and probably will be indicted. but to the average republican voter who talks to me every day, it s all bs. they re going after trump, they didn t go after pence and biden. joe, come on. pence and biden did the same thing. this all just strengthens him, strengthens him along the base. barbara mcquade, when we first are talking about these classified documents and we found out that joe biden had some and mike pence had some, there was a lot of conversation about the fact that america classifies a lot of documents. someone argued over classifies documents. there s a difference between is taking some budget review in your top drawer and what it s alleged that donald trump might have done. this document that we re talking about, the recording that they ve got of donald trump, since we talked about an ....