Empathy for him? most definitely. _ empathy for him? most definitely. as _ empathy for him? most definitely. as i - empathy for him? most definitely. as i said, . empathy for him? most i definitely. as i said, that's the tragedy, it was interview in two parts. if the first quarter of the interview, if the tone had been kept throughout the hour and a half we were watching and listening, it would have come across very differently. i saw that and i think we all felt his anguish, we all felt, my god, imagine losing a parent when you are 12 years old, and a full guise of the media, the glare of the...