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committee? you know in the next few weeks you'll hear the public hearings of the committee. i'm surprised that he's not a part of that, but that tells me they actually wanted to get answers and not have the greatest show on earth that would happen in front fortof th cameras. the fact that he entered into a subpoena, answered it and answered questions. he is a person that was actively trying to ask legislators to overturn an election, to overturn the will of the people. so they have rudy giuliani testify for a nine-hour period? i bet they have a lot of information from him. >> i'm sur...

Does that sound like someone who is taking the fifth or is he actually answering questions? >> it could be a combination of both. he doesn't want to find himself in contempt of the committee, he's a skillful lawyer, he's a former prosecutor, he's somebody who understands the way it works. he was in the department of justice at one point, he was, as i say, a u.s. attorney ain a vey important district, the southern district of new york. he knows how to play the game and try to thread the needle. whether he's done so successfully or not, i don't know. the other possibility is he was given immunit...