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Family helps sometimes, always contributes. >> and papadopoulos seems to have a knack for attracting characters offering him cash under questionable circumstances. take the case of charles towel. >> i met charles during a meeting in chicago, actually, during the aipac convention that's hosted annually. >> was he israeli? >> he's israeli american. >> israeli american? >> yes. i was entertaining going into the private sector after i was hopefully done with the fbi and i thought, you know, if he's somebody who has some contacts in the middle east like he supposedly does, maybe there's synergy. do...

Putting your arms around barack obama with this speech? >> no. that's the curious part. if we're close to closure, you can say take the political risk and sometimes you have to do what's right above and beyond politics. i'll never forget in 2008, aipac convention was in philadelphia two days before the primary. i got to speak as governor and brought a guest along with me, hillary clinton, she wasn't allowed to speak and i recognized her. the place went absolutely wild. in part, pro hillary, but in part somewhat -- >> the fear of barack obama. >> i think as we enter an election cycle, it's a ve...

"few people knew the young low-level volunteer named george who has already proven to be a liar." is that a fair assessment of your role in the campaign, low-level volunteer? >> it's all relative. i was certainly not a campaign chairman. i was certainly not steve bannon or michael flynn. but i also wasn't serving coffee and i also don't think the campaign would have invited me to speak at the rnc the way they did if they viewed me as a coffee boy. >> you spoke at the convention? >> yes. >> well, not exactly. papadopoulos spoke at an event in cleveland that occurred during the republican nation...

Asking for the document search to include multiple spellings of papadopoulos's name. dearborn and mashburn did not respond to requests for comment. earlier this year, the "new york times" reported that john mashburn, who is currently at the department of energy but was a campaign official at the time, he said in the judiciary committee of the senate that he had a recollection of you sending an e-mail alluding to these e-mails. hillary clinton's e-mails. >> so i met john once in my life at the rnc convention along with rick dearborn, so of course if there was an e-mail, as john is alluding to, ...