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lucas: good afternoon, griff, for years the estimated number of illegal immigrants inside the united states was 11 million, now texas lieutenant governor says that could soon be approaching a number 3 times higher. we are approaches 10 to 15% of the total population of the united states will be here illegal by the time joe biden's first term is over. you have to understand this has been an invasion for a long time. this is a plan from the left. they want to bring people in, one day make sure they have citizenship so they can vote. lucas: as you mentioned, griff, this morning a charte...

Little bit warmer. >> great to be here. leland: al, not a legitimate president, you will defend this i'm guessing. >> i will, i will, leland. first of all john lewis is patriot and man with a conscience and we should take what he says seriously. he does not act lightly this was a man arrested 45 times fighting for civil rights. a man who faced death. a man who stood up for civil rights and human rights for a half sentty. leland: does that mean everything he says is right? i'm waiting for the defense of what he said, not who he is as a man? >> so you and i don't really know all the facts that h...

Concerned about foreign interference, russian interference in an election but there is a distinction between interfering and stealing an election. and lewis's comments saying that trump was not legitimately elected suggests that the russians elected trump. trump won the electoral college by a wide margin and relit gating this over and over again doesn't advance the cause for anybody. we do need to get to the bottom of this. obama should never have left russia interfere with our elections. we need to get to the bottom of it. russia needs to be punished for any actions it took but we have got to...

This intelligence briefing, it is mr. lewis is the unknit terri arbiter that this was not a fair election even though entire intelligence community say not one vote was changed by a foreign power. >> i agree with. that i take different view what al said. in october and november, they thought they were going to win they were pressuring donald trump to promise to accept the outcome. we had a result. accept the outcome. and it is not productive or helpful for anybody to be delegitimatizing the outcome of the election. i think we ought to be focusing on the peaceful transfer of you power. and i th...

Seems as though congressman lewis, by extension you, are doing exactly they say what intended goals are? >> even, leland if we walk down that path, we have to walk where the facts take us. there is a reason the senate intelligence committee opened a bipartisan inquiry whether or not some folks in the campaigns were inappropriately talking to the russians during the election. there is a reason they have opened an inquiry with subpoena power and said that they are going to talk to people in the incoming administration. not about delegitimatizing the election. donald trump is the president. he is...