question of the legal team and the defense side hoping this would be gone long ago. and it isn t. and the office of special counsel expected monday or tuesday with their latest request or conditions that they d like to see for a potential interview with the president. one of the things they re saying is he could be asked about matters that happened prior to taking office that would kind of cover the area of collusion, alleged collusion. was there any interference from russian operatives with actual individuals in the trump orbit? we ve seen some of that playing out in recent months. but not things that took place while the president was in office, which would cover all of the things that relate to the comey firing or alleged obstruction of justice. that s where they stand at the moment. will any of this amount to an interview with the president. many legal experts say that would be perilous for the president to voluntarily do it. at the same time, we don t know if the special counsel will attempt to subpoena the president and begin a legal fight with that which is something that the white house and outside legal team have been researching and preparing. there are questions about whether a sitting president could be compelled to testify or must be something that can be reached voluntarily. there are legal and political implications to all of it. will it happen, we don t know. but the fact and forth continues. kelly o., thank you from new jersey. joining me now political reporter from ax see yo. and seem ma. si seema, the president is interested in this, he s on twitter claiming his innocence. saying always innocent, just let me talk. do you think there s a strategy there? i think there s two things what the president wants to do and what his lawyers wants him to do. the president has made it clear he wants to sit down with mueller. when you hear his lawyers talk about it, rudy giuliani talk about it, there s much more caution discussed there. it s two competing ideas obviously with the administration what the president wants to do, his impulses, versus what the president wants to do. so if the president s legal team, alexi, decides, no, there s not going to be a voluntary interview, what happens next? a subpoena? that certainly could happen if he doesn t sit down. the interesting thing is he wants to sit down and do an interview with mueller, despite his lawyers tells him otherwise. so, unless they actually come to that conclusion, it s seeming that the president wants to sit down. it s interesting how the president seemingly with the opinion of public court, tweeting his innocence. and now he s shifting by signaling he does want to actually sit down. do this lawyers somehow convince him to listen to them and a subpoena is definitely likely. but i m willing to say that the president will push for that even if it s against his lawyers advice. and seema, we saw candidates deliver for candidates. we saw him on thursday. he s going to ohio tonight. do you think voters are welcoming his presence there or do they have reservations? i think they re bringing him in the area in ohio has been a reliable republican district. and i think the race has been tightening. i think republicans are hoping that the president s appearance tonight helps energize the republican base and gets those voters to the poll. this is the last special election before the midterms. this is going to be sort of an indicator of where we re heading. what about the democrats, alexi, with the game plan leading up to the midterms in november. what are they doing right now to win? and talk about how the socialist message from breakout candidates like new york s alexandria o cortez. when i talk about it, the base is telling her to start paying her to come out because of the way she energizes the republican base. aside from the democratic socialist movement democrats across the country are given the freedom to focus on local issues in a way that republicans are not. they are forced into talking about national issues and responding to controversy coming out of washington out of the president because of the way he s getting involved time and again across the country in these races. very key point you make there. ladies, i want to get to interesting stuff with omarosa newman. the new book coming out titled unhinged. in a public excerpt she describes her experience with the president. she writes i realized something real and serious was going on in donald s brain. his mental decline could not be denied. what do you think there is to the reference of his state of mind? what s the session she s making? she s obviously known him for some time. i don t know how correctly she s viewed by the american public. if you agree that the president s mental state needs examined you will probably agree with her. i think it s an interesting observation for somebody who has known him for over a decade and was in the white house. and this lester holt interview was a key moment before the white house line was we re getting rid of james comey. and in this interview, he brought up russia. so, what do you think this is all about, alexi, is it about selling books? yes. or are there others? do you know of others in the president s inner circle echoing her sentiments? well, i know for many months now people close to the president have told us at axios, this is the darket phase of the president s presidency. now it really seems that the president is unhinged. i mean he is someone who loves going off the cough. i don t think that omarosa is necessarily wrong when she says it seems like the president rambles on and on. that s something we all know. i really do think we re seeing this pats turn of folks, whether it s republican lawmakers retiring suddenly deciding to speak out against the president. or folks who leave the white house, like omarosa and sean spicer writing the tell-all books when they see a way to profit from insider information which may not be new information from what we ve been hearing from folks all along. ladies thank you for weighing in. appreciate that. thank you. so, a protest against the nra in northern virginia. let s go to ali vitaly in fairfax count county for us. ali, let s get to the scene, what are you hearing? reporter: alex, things are starting to wrap up behind me. at least the oral portion of this where folks might stand in makes remarks. one of the things that the march for our lives students have tried to push is this national conversation about gun control and gun violence. there are protesters back behind me on the other side of the crowd, instead of there being any clashes there was actually some engagement. and i thought that conversation wasn t heated it wasn t tense. people weren t shouting over each other. they were talking about the issues from the stance of being pro-nra. and from the stance of these students who would like to see the nra get out of politiciaauo. one of the students michael sullivan from maryland, why the nra should stop the change they re looking for. nra s money has been funding a lot of inaction, right? they don t want lawmakers to take any specific action. they want them to just stay away from their guns. i feel like as long as we have a corrupt organization like the national rifle association controlling our politicians on the right and even some of our politicians on the left, i think it will be impossible for us to do anything productive in congress. and even in the even for the white house. reporter: so, on the one side of this, there is the policy debate. on the other side, you can see in the background, there are flowers around here to remember one of the students joaquin oliver killed in the parkland shooting. it would have been his birthday today. and a lot of folks are remembering him in the way we re pushing for guns alex. can i just ask you for the makeup of the group of what you re seeing bought i love what you re saying, there s discourse, there s discussion, there s opposing sides but they seem to be having civil discussions. does predominantly young this group, or representation from all walks and ages? reporter: it s both. the confrontation i was talking about, some of the students came over and engaged some of the counterprotesters here, many of them from local pro-gun organizations just simply talking about the gun debate and where they can find common points of consensus. there were discussion about gun checks and back ground. that s a discussion that i think a lot of these students hope can be held on a more national legislative level. thanks. he lived high on the hog and wound up in deep debt. now prosecutors paint a picture of paul manafort s growing desperate need for money. and why did he agree to work for donald trump for no pay? that s next. we know a thing or two because we ve seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum the prosecution has tried to jazz it up a little bit with all of the photographs and evidence-mr. manafort s seven homes, his waterfall ponds his putting agrees and now ever popular ostrich jacket. so, the prosecutors are trying to keep the jurors engaged. but i ll tell, the documentary evidence and the testimony from the accountants and the tax preppers has been devastating, when, for example, yesterday, some of the testimony that unfolded through the questioning of one of the accountants, the prosecutor was asking the accountant about the relationship between mr. gates and mr. manafort. and the accountant made it clear that, well, mr. gates was mr. manafort right-hand man. when the prosecutor followed up with, well who was in charge? the testimony was, oh, mr. manafort was in charge. so, the whole let s try to put it on gates it probably not going to fly with the jury. and i think that the two biggest things that we have coming up, they both relate to gates testimony. because if he testifies, one, we re going to see a little bit of a donnybrook with the defense attorneys really trying to beat him up as a liar. and as somebody who has this incredible motive to fabricate against mr. manafort. because he got relatively speaking a very generous plea offer. but then i think the second and even more important consequence of gates testimony, for the president is we may learn a whole lot of things that we ve never heard before. because the defense attorneys will have every statement that gates ever made to mueller s prosecution team. and, therefore, there are topics that they could cross examine him on that we have not been made privy to so this could be a very big week. kathleen, as we get to you, as glenn had said they re trying to jazz things up with the documents, legally speaking how does that circle back to the president? the issue is whether manafort will be convinced or convincible to speak out against the president to cooperate, eventually, with the investigation. and turn on president trump. which i think may help explain president trump s outburst earlier this week. where he s feeling his own legal vulnerability. and, you know, therefore asking attorney general sessions to shut down the russia investigation. so, we see that the president himself is acting as though he s at risk. and he certainly has his lawyer, rudy giuliani talking about the president, with regard to speaking to the special counsel voluntarily. let s take a listen to that. i ve heard him say, i want to be interviewed. if my lawyers can reach an agreement on what the ground rules will be. we ve had a hard time doing that. but we re still i m not going to give you a lot of hope it s going to happen. but we re still negotiating. we haven t stopped negotiating. glenn, we re heard a lot of people weigh in on this, but is it in the president s best interest to sit down and talk to robert mueller or not? you know, sadly, no. i think it would be difficult for him to come out of an interview unscathed. and i was interested that robert mueller was contemplating written questions to mr. trump. that sounded a little bit unusual to me. but i think if i can use one example of a written question that could put the president in a trick bag, it would be, you know, mr. trump, did you ask director comey to lay off michael flynn? there are only two answers to that question. if the president says, no, i didn t, i will bet mr. mueller can prove that to be a false answer. and if the yesterday says, yes, i did, what would support arguably an obstruction of justice charge. so, i don t think the president will answer any questions in any form, orally, written, or any other way. but, kathleen, rudy giuliani says the negotiations continue. so what do they look like? why is it taking so long, and do you see an end point here? how much of this can go on? well, i think that trump s lawyers think it their interest and his interest to keep those negotiations going on as long as possible. those negotiations are taking place in the shadow of legal precedence, indicating that presidents can be compelled to cooperate with a criminal investigation as former presidents nixon and clinton found out in their own experiences. so, while there isn t precedent requiring, or a court sustaining a subpoena requiring a president to testify before a grand jury, president clinton agreed to do exactly that, only after the subpoena was issued. so, i suspect that s what we need to keep in mind. it s against the backdrop where presidents are not above the law. presidents do have, you know, can be compelled to cooperate. and act in that way, in the same way anyone else in the country has to act. they re not above the law. kathleen clark and glenn kishekish er kirshner. thank you. the ivanka factor, the moderator position in the white house but does she have any influence on the way he comports himself? 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article, felicia, welcome to you. it may be a bit unreasonable to ask ivanka to speak directly against her father, or her boss, really. is there any event that they took steps to end that policy? what did she do about it? well, i think we know is this not a president that takes on much advice when it comes to decisions he s making. we ve seen that on the supreme court choice, brett ckavanaugh. he was told that kavanaugh s paper trail could come back to haunt limit. and the same on russia. the same day that ivanka made her comment on separation and the president. five members of the national security team were at the white house podium trying to take a tough stance against russia interference. and later that evening, the president was on the campaign trail in pennsylvania denouncing the russian hoax, in his words. so, when you look at the whole scope of his actions as president. you re not really seeing if anything, it s sort of playing reverse psychology strategy would be more effective if someone were trying to push him in a certain direction. i think when you re looking at the role of ivanka trump, that same dynamic is really playing out. what exactly is her role at the white house? she s a senior adviser to the president. she s there in the west wing. and i think that that is really that gets to the heart of this tricky situation for her. she is on the one hand, trying to establish herself as someone who is independent of the administration. she s very high-profile in her own right. she has her own fashion brand which as we know, she announced that will be shutting down as of last month. and this whole episode really underscores the difficulty of the dual role for her, being someone who is very much of the administration. and yet, trying to cast herself as someone who is apart from it and as you say, you say she s trying to preserve her reputation, independent of the administration that her father lead that is consistently in controversy. i m curious what her position before she took the white house job. before the white house job? i think she s trying to craft the image of herself as a working mother. someone who has a successful fashion brand. and who is out there fighting for her in her current role, she s tried to make parental and family leave a centerpiece of what she s accomplishing in this white house. it s clear she s opened herself to being hit on both sides. on one end, the democrats arguing that these comments are too little too late, and on the republican side, republicans say she runs the risk of undermining the president and his message coming out. are there some tangible about accomplishments in her role as senior adviser? can we point to anything she has done? she s been a very openly, visible representative of the administration, certainly, in her foreign appearances, at the south korean olympics. he s been out there as someone seen as a celebrity in her own right. in the last few days she made the remarks on thursday she has tried to steer the issue back to the issue of paid family leave. and there is a measure that senator marco rubio has been pushing for on that front. so, i think that s probably the line that we re going to continue to see her taking as things go forward. but it s clear, when you ve got the comments that she made on thursday, making the rounds on the evening talk shows, that this is the aspect of her actions that s really going to be part of her legacy going forward. all right. we will see what she does going forward with your help as well. thank you so much. briefing room surprise. five advisers. one message, how much did the president know? and how much did he care? that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it s about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and sold around the world. order now at gilletteondemand.com. gillette. the best a man can get. in a white house news preference in an unprecedented show of force. this threat is not going away. as i have said consistently, russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continues to engage in maligned influenced operations to this day. this is a threat we need to take extremely seriously. and to tackle and respond to with fierce determination and focus. joining me right now in the studio, congressman jeremy kneads. congressman, i m curious your take on this pretty strong show of force. do you think this is a public relations campaign, they re trying to get this message out? well, first of all, what you say is correct, it s been a show. and i hope that they re doing what they say they re doing and i think they re pretty serious. the problem that comes in is the president of the united states. when i talk to some of our friends and allies, you know, they re tired of hearing certain things that may be said by some of his administration. but then the president comes and contradicts exactly what they say. so everyone else has learned to listen, not to them, but to the president. in that same press conference, mr. coats indicated he still to this day can t tell you. that s right. what the conversation was with putin and what was promised and what was not. so, all of that is just talk and could be averted by the president in his actions in whatever agreement he may or may not have made with putin. so, how far do you think they ve pushed the president on this? well, i think that not far enough. or i think it s going to get to the point at some point that they re really going to have to come out and talk to the american people. at least to congress, or someone, about what has taken place. i think that it s clear to everyone that russia is still trying to get involved and meddle in the elections this coming november. everybody except for the president of the united states. i ve seen that this president has resisted even with congress. the sanctions that congress has put on russia. the president has done everything to resist doing that. and has minimized the enforcement of that. so, it is the problem lies with the top. yes. the president of the united states. specifically, though, relative to election security, sir, with 94 days to go to the midterms, is it too late to try to avoid potential catastrophe? well, i think what i would hope would happen is that every american knows to go out to vote and to not allow the russians and what they re trying to portray or listen to the president influence the campaign. that s right. not allow that to affect who they vote for this coming election. let s get out there in record numbers and vote. because it s tremendously important you that cast that vote. and don t let the campaign to infiltrate and change people s minds affect how you vote come this november. you have the five intelligence security leaders out there talking. and then you have the president speaking after that happened, about the mueller collusion investigation. let s take a listen to what he had to say about this. now, we re being hindered by the russian hoax. it s a hoax, okay? i ll tell you what. russia s very unhappy that trump won, that, i can tell you. president putin, did you want president trump to win the election? and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that? yes, i did. yes, i did. what s the reality here. what should americans believe? what they heard. believe what you heard. there s no question that mr. putin wanted donald trump to become the president of the united states. there s no question you heard donald trump say, during the campaign, russia, if you do anything to listen or get whether e-mails, et cetera, do it. there s no question that there was a meeting that took place in trump tower between trump junior and his brother-in-law, and it seems clear that the president probably knew of it beforehand. so, there s no question that those things have taken place. and that the new investigation is now taking place, looking at all of those things, to determine the fact to determine the degree of what the president and his campaign was involved with russia. and when the president tweets that he wants jeff sessions to immediately stop to curtail this mueller investigation, does that only add to the chorus and cries about obstruction of justice? absolutely. and it as shows that he s starting to panic because someone is getting close to him. so, you know, if in fact an obstruction of justice means if you re trying to block and/or stop someone from going forward, and from testifying and telling the truth, so it could very well be his son who testified under oath in the intelligence committees, he said he d never said anything to his father, that turns out not to be the case, that s obstruction of justice. and that is something that could possibly put him in jail. that s a felony in and of itself. and that could then have another direct link to the president. so, i think that, you know, i tell everyone, let the new investigation go to its fuelest extent, until he finalizes it. and clearly, the president doesn t want that to happen. okay. back to the midterms i mentioned 94 days away and there are reports that democrats are soft favorites to retake the house. according to politico, the report goes like this, a democratic takeover to lead to the first black house speaker in history. howl realistic is that prospect, i think you have to get through nancy pelosi first. first, there s one single focus, getting the house back. talk about that is premature. we ve seen with the election of the president, that you can t count your chickens before they hatch. th we must continue to be in a consolidated effort to win the house back to keep in check some of the policies that the president is trying to put forward. my focus is not on leadership. my focus is on winning the house back and the senate back. no cart before the horse for you? that s right. gregory meeks, thank you very much. coming up next, the president s media and where it might be headed and then in the next hour, the political barometer and political fortune-telling. u flake free. manolo? u flake free. look at my soft hair. i should be in the shot now too. try head and shoulders two in one. stay at la quinta. where we re changing with stylish make-overs. then at your next meeting, set your seat height to its maximum level. bravo, tall meeting man. start winning today. book now at lq.com in the battle against the press ivanka trump and the press. repeatedly the media resorts to personal attacks. i had a very nice life. i didn t need to be i used to get actually good press. media continues to ratchet up the verbal assault against the president. certainly, we re seeing my fair share of reporting. on behalf of the president, he s made his comments clear. they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake disgusting news. let s bring in republican strategy joe watkins former aide to george h.w. bush. and peter emerson, he s worked in three democratic administrations. let s go to you first, joe, how do you make sense of this? do you know with certainty where donald trump and sarah sanders stands on this issue? president trump. i worked for an american president, staffers are important but what they think is secondary, far secondary to what the president of the united states thinks and says. ivanka trump is right, the press is not the enemy of the american people. sarah sanders was less inclined to do that because she has been hurt by the correspondent s dinner. putting personal feelings aside and stating what s true, it is tough for them. they have to defend their boss that says the press is the enemy of the people, the media is the enemy of the people. having worked for george h.w. bush was the best for america and the media is not the enemy of the people. is sarah sanders obliged to avoid contradicting the president on this? every great press secretary that i ve worked with or that i ve known in democratic and republican administrations has permission from the president himself to often disagree but more importantly more often to make fun, to use humor to diffuse. what we re seeing today is a concentrated effort to create physical fear among journalists that they fear for their safety, to destroy credibility, even though ironically the people that disseminate fake news is fox news, national inquire remember, am radio, and worst of all to rip apart the very fabric of trust amongst americans and our institutions, that is a play book directly out of the path to fascism. peter, what does it say about these times when sarah sanders points out that she s the first white house press secretary that has to have secret service protection? i don t know if that s true or not but what about the journalists who get escorted in and out of rallies for their own personal safety by the secret service or private security because donald trump is calling for basically killing them or assaulting them. and that s happening over and over again in america. he has blood on his hands. it was deplorable what we witnessed thursday in pennsylvania and i remember thinking thank heavens for that pen separating all of those people attending the trump rally from the journalists there for the journalists safety sake. joe, you have the president who tweets about ivanka s comments saying it is the fake news which is a large percentage of the media that is the enemy of the people. what s the message he is sending there? of course he s trying to cast d dispersions on folks that disagree with him. it is good when presidents have criticism. it is good for the country and the american people and good for the presidency to hear what people are saying, to hear the effect of what you re doing. for the press to just laud you all the time, praise you all the time would be unfair, untrue, and ineffective for the american people. a free press is a good thing for the american people, and the presiden presidency shouldn t see itself hindered by bad press. every president feels they re treated unfair by the press. but the press has a job to do, and that s to tell it as they see it, and it is up to the american people to makeup their minds when they read what the press says. peter quoted new york times bret stevens calling the spar with the media, saying trump will have blood on his hands, do you think that is fair or is that too far and is that unrealistic? joe, to you. yeah. it s true. i think what he s saying is very honest because the president can call off the dogs. his supporters are very, very strongly for him and will do almost what he says, and there will always be people on the fringe that take matters into their own hands and take it a step further. we saw it during the 2016 campaign for president. you saw some supporters lash out and hit people in the audience that were not supporting trump for president at the time. so the president has i think the opportunity to set the record straight and to call the dogs off so to speak and to better understand that media folks are doing their job. let them do their job. but peter, demonizing the media, does that work for the president? it works to an extent but i want to reinforce what mr. watkins said. i have been a press secretary, deputy press secretary in campaigns in the united states for president as well as campaigns overseas. there s a natural tension, almost a simmering war between journalists and politicians but what s very important to know is that the media often plays an extraordinary role in pointing out mistakes or bumps in the road ahead that can be very valuable to the administration, so it is very important to have a good working relationship. guys, very quickly, i want to go to ivanka s comments on boarder family acceseparations drawing reactions, including lawrence o donnell that she s against family separation. here is that. she didn t feel it vehemently enough to go down there and see how the girls were being treated, to make sure the boys and the girls were safe from abuse. she did not feel vehemently enough about it to sit in a federal courtroom in texas and watch an immigration judge treat spanish speaking three-year-olds with no lawyers as adults and bring her eyewitness experience of that legal atrocity back to her father to get him to stop his unspeakable cruelty to those children. ivanka trump was not so vehemently opposed to children being ripped out of the arms of their mothers that she actually did anything about it. was that fair? last word to you, joe. it is fair. that s what happens when you re a member of the president s staff, senior member of the president s staff that you carry that responsibility. i would never have advised ivanka to join her father s staff as a white house staffer. lawrence o donnell is right, when you re a staffer, you carry that responsibility. always good to talk to you both. ahead next hour, what could be a polar bear s lament about america s missed opportunity. 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News, analysis and interviews with politicians and observers. several other top campaign officials, and with russians who had ties to the kremlin. on sunday, this tweet describing in the clearest terms yet what this meeting was about. this was a meeting, the president tweeted, to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics and it went nowhere. adding lastly, i did not know about it. now remember, when the new york times was first breaking news of this meeting, the president helped don junior draft a statement that claimed it was about adoption policy. after that was proven to be a lie, the president s story began evolving, to use a polite term. this is a year ago in paris. i think from a practical standpoint, most people would have taken that meeting. it s called opposition research or even research into your opponent. i ve had many people i ve only been in politics for two years, but i ve had many people call up, we have information on this factor or this person or, people involved in the case, how he communicates to jeff sessions over at the attorney general, and so i don t think we can look at these tweets and sort of write them off or shrug off that, oh, this is just the president tapping it out on his phone. it s going to be important as this case progresses. a critical piece of it is that mueller has all the documentation too. we presume he has texts, e-mails, meeting schedules, correspondence back and forth, which is important because the key players involved keep changing their stories publicly. if you go back and look at this, july 8th, the trump junior statement. the meeting was primarily about adoption. we now know the president was involved in that, even though they denied it at the time. then the new york times writes, no, it was about opposition research on clinton. trump junior releases e-mails that says clinton dirt was d discussed. sarah sanders evolves that, says the president weighed in on the statement. then in september, trump junior sa says he doesn t recall white house involvement in the statement. the new york times personal lawyer tells mueller trump dictated the statement. so it evolves and changes. if you re bob mueller, you know a hell of a lot more than we do about this. you have all the documentation and the like. again, beating a broken record, but the president keeps making the case that he should sit down with mueller. the big legal question here is not collusion. that s not really in statute here unless you re talking about anti-trust law. it s conspiracy to commit a crime. the crime is obtaining help from a foreign power, which could be construed as an in-kind campaign contribution. this is fascinating because of the prospect a subpoena could come in. yesterday, jay sekulow mentioned if a subpoena comes in, they re going to file a motion to quash. that s going to go up almost certainly to the supreme court. the supreme court is 4-4 in terms of appointees from either party. the potentially decisive vote could be brett kavanaugh, the nominee. he could have a pivotal say in the president s legal fate. he s expressed expansive views of presidential power. tonc to your point about jay sekulow, he had to clean up his own past statements. he s the one who went on television saying it s ridiculous, the president had nothing to do with it. now he says, oh, well. i had bad information at that point. i made a mistake in my statement. i talked about that before. that happens when you have cases like this. i think it s very important to point out that in a situation like this, you have, over time, facts develop. that s what investigations do. i agreed to go on your network and others days within being retained on this and had a lot of information to process. i got that one wrong. facts develop in a lot of things over time, but facts about something that s already happened and who knew what when or who was in the room, those don t change, they don t develop. the president either did or did not help draft a statement. there were plenty of people who could have given a jay sekulow that information. he either went on to be a political lawyer and didn t do any homework before he lied on television or said something that turned out to be not true, or again, he s just like them and every time you get caught, you re going to change your story. i think this is less a reflection of this case and more a reflection of the clients that they have here. trump is known in a political setting, in a business setting for sort of changing what he says depending on who he s talking to. he s done it for years. so the fact that shehe s doing now in some ways isn t a surprise, but the stakes are so much higher, and he s putting people, his own attorneys and advisers, in terrible positions to go out and defend things that he himself later comes out and admits are different. it s also absolutely emblematic of the lack of discipline in the president s team. it s shifted, different people have been in and out of that team, but they ve all been characterized by a lack of any discipline you normally see, especially lawyers who are normally very careful. it s not the facts that are changing. it s the client s story that seems to be changing. the president does have this tenden tendency to try to get ahead of it. tweeted publicly, it seems less nefarious. of course, tweets are public statements that can be used in court. to that point, that s why i m so curious about the president over this weekend, a, after seeing hope hicks and b, knowing more than any of us at the table know. that s why you get curious, what does the president know? what is he worried about when he does this? meanwhile, separate but related, the paul manafort trial resumes next hour. this is a huge week for prosecutors. expected on the stand soon, manafort s long-time right-hand man rick gates. gates handled all of manafort s day-to-day business then joined the trump campaign in a top position. his testimony is a key test for prosecutors and the credibility of their big cooperating witnesses. shimon prokupecz is following this trial and joins us now live here in washington. is today the day, shimon? do we get rick gates? when he takes the stand, what are we looking for? reporter: quite honestly, we don t know. we know the witness who was testifying on friday, the accountant, one of the accountants, she s going to continue testifying this afternoon when manafort s lawyers are going to get to question her. that is the big question now, when does rick gates take the stand? some of what we re going to see and learn for the first time, perhaps, is just the extent of his cooperation. jurors will likely get that. there will be documents submitted into evidence. we ll get to learn how much he s been cooperating. we may not learn the full extent in terms of where it goes out into the campaign or perhaps the collusion investigation, but certainly parts of his cooperation are going to become known at this trial. it ll no doubt be challenged by the defense. his credibility is a key issue, john, for them. they re arguing he was sort of the mastermind behind this entire thing, blaming him for a lot of manafort s behavior. so it s going to be interesting. what will be most fascinating, to see what his life has been like these last few months as he s been cooperating. it is fascinating. big test for rick gates, whether he stands up to the cross-examination and the special counsel. shimon, appreciate that. keep in touch as we learn more this afternoon. up next, just hours to go, the trump administration reimposing sanctions on iran. the white house says iran has no one to blame but itself. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 if these packs have the same number of bladder leak pads, i bet you think bigger is better. actually, it s bulkier. always discreet quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection that s a lot less bulky. always discreet. 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following through on one of the many controversial threats and promises he s made when it comes to foreign policy. starting tomorrow, midnight tonight, his administration will reimpose sanctions on iran. the first phase excludes oil but targets coal, steel, aluminum, and precious metal. the sanctions also go after iran s automobile sector and aim to cut off the country s access to the u.s. dollar. national security adviser john bolton says getting tough with tehran is the only thing that will change its behavior. it is certainly 180-degree reversal from the failed obama administration. our policy is not regime change, but we want to put unprecedented pressure on the government of iran to change its behavior. so far, they ve shown no indication they re prepared to do that. cnn s kaitlan collins joins us live to take us inside this decision by the white house. how did all of this unfold today? we see the ambassador out talking about it, but what about the president? oh, a little communications issue there with kaitlan. reporter: this is standard operating procedure. the white house would allow a small group of reporters to come in, watch the president sign something like this, but today that did not happen. instead, this was not on the president s schedule, this signing of this executive order, reimposing these sanction. though, we did know the sanctions were coming since the president withdrew from the iran deal back in may. instead, the white house had already established a photo lid, which essentially means we re not expecting to see the president any longer today by the time they sent out and alerted the press that the president signed this executive order today. typically, the reporters would come in, there would be camera coverage, and an opportunity for reporters to ask questions. now, today those questions likely would have been about the president s tweet over the weekend saying that that meeting very clearly and explicitly between his son and russian officials last summer was not about russian adoptions but instead about obtaining dirt on hillary clinton. of course, those questions weren t asked today because there was no coverage of this event, which we ve asked the white house why there wasn t any coverage of it. they haven t gotten back to us yet. kaitlan collins, appreciate that. she s traveling with the president up in new jersey. it is unusual, especially because this has been a signature issue for the president. you heard john bolton, ambassador bolton, say this is an issue where a lot of the world thinks they re wrong, but they think they re right. they view the obama deal was weak, not tough enough on iran. you would think normally, would you not, that the president and this is an issue where the republican base doesn t like his trade policy, but the republican establishment is with him on this. you would think this would be the perfect moment for more of a big event, right? you would. in the past, the president actually has been pretty forward leaning and public in his statements on iran. he s had events at the white house. kaitlan is probably right that he s probably trying to avoid some of the questions not related to iran. as a policy matter, it is quite significant. it is a promise fulfilled for the president. he has promised he was going to be taking a tougher line, putting sanctions back in place. it will be interesting to watch the reaction from the europeans. they re not only unhappy with the president in terms of his policy on iran but also on trade right now. he s putting a lot of american allies in a really difficult position. you saw some statements this morning already condemning this action, but for the president, he looks at republicans and he looks at his base, which fully support what he s doing as it relates to tehran. to that point, let s put them up here, courtesy of reuters. the german foreign minister and the spokeswoman for the chancellor making clear that they don t view this as the right way to go about this. they also think the president is now trying to punish essentially german company, french companies, other european companies doing business with iran. again, this is one on which the president has been fairly consistent, even though there s a lot of blow back. yeah, this is where i think john bolton using the word unprecedented pressure on iran is interesting. on one hand, they can hurt the iranian currency. they already already companies fleeing iran because we re sort of the big player, especially in the banking system. so, you know, i think that will be one of the tests. what is the trump administration trying to achieve? the imposition of sanctions is usually a means to an end. in the obama administration, it was a means to get them to the table so you could negotiate the deal. there s little indication that the trump administration has sort of indicated what they think their realistic end goal is. maximum pressure with a big question mark for now at least. up next, tomorrow s big test in ohio and the president s late effort to help in a contest that should be, emphasis on should be, a republican slam dunk. it s time we rebuild our own country now, okay. [ cheers and applause ] and troy balderson is going to help me do that. right, troy? troy? yes, okay. he said yes. if he said no, i m out of here, okay. farmer. my life is here. [telephone ring] ahoy-hoy. alexander graham bell here. no, no, my number is one, you must want two! two, i say!! like my father before. 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listen to ohio s governor john kasich. he s more of a moderate. t . the chaos that seems to surround donald trump has unnerved a lot of people. so suburban women in particular here are the ones that are really turned off. you add to that the millennials, you have it very close. i asked them the other day, why are you bringing trump in? he said, i don t have anything to do with it. i think he s trying to thread this needle. if republicans lose a district that is considered by most analysts plus seven, plus eight for republicans, the last republican won it by 30-plus points, if it s even close, what does that tell us about the mood from now through november and the likelihood of a democratic takeover of the house? it s just another data point potentially in the democratic enthusiasm that has shown up in numerous other special elections. from what we can see in fundraising from democratic candidates, there s real enthusiasm out there. it s been consistent. it seems like even if you just look at the efarly voting in ths particular district, there is some evidence that democrats are casting votes early in ways they hadn t previously. so i think it s going to be a really interesting data point in sort of the overall special election and trending towards november as well. and so the president goes out in the final days, and he makes the case he doesn t acknowledge that some people don t like him, but he does make the case that never mind me, if you elect this democrat, the democrats might take the house back, then you get nancy ploe circumstances th pelosi, then you get higher taxes. nancy pelosi controls danny o connor, whoever the hell that is. danny o connor. that s a beauty. he s another beauty. this is what we re fighting. they will take away your taxes. they will destroy so many things that we ve given. danny o connor would be the democratic candidate against troy balderson. probably did some good for his name recognition there. yeah, it s decent for democrats if they come closer, but it s a five-alarm fire for republicans if they lose this district. the republican incumbent here has won this district by an average of 35 points. it was redrawn after 2010. the bigger implications are what s fascinating. this is a very college educated district, one of the most in ohio, i think the most in ohio. if republicans cannot hold on to this, what does it mean for someone else in these upper income, suburban educated districts where a lot of people are turned off by trump. this tells you all you need to know. you could say, gee, these are just being good, loyal republicans, or you could say, wait a minute, why do you have to send the president, the vice president, the house speaker, the president s son? why do you need to send all this and more? why do you have to send the fire department into a district that should be a cake walk? every time we have these special elections, we always caution it s true. you don t want to read too much into it. we ve now had enough of these special elections and primaries you start to see a trend. republicans are worried. they know that trump has 80%, let s say, approval rating among gop voters, but there is this soft 20%. they tend to be college educated younger voters. if that 20% starts to fall apart, it s a really difficult midterm landscape for the gop. special if all the democrats are coming out of the woodwork. if democrats come out and republicans maybe aren t voting. look at the money, look at the resources. this tells you all you need to know. this is a safe republican district. look at all the money republican parties and groups are pouring into this district. you just look at that and say, they know they got a problem. in addition to everything else folks have said here, i think there s implications for trump s mood. you know, when he loses these if he loses, right, if they lose here, despite him going in there i was with him for the 78 minutes or whatever he spoke in ohio on saturday night, you know, it has the potential to just really make him angry. his anger tends to build. then you sort of he gets less disciplined, and you can imagine the kinds of things he tweets and the things he says and statements and the like. sort of in addition to the politics on the ground, kind of getting into his head, it s not going to be a good place. maybe he ll rethink the strategy they ve been talking about of getting him out there so much during midterms as we get closer and closer to the election. they were talking about plans to have him traveling all over the place and talking all the time. this would be a place you d want to put him. if that doesn t work it s a bifurcated strategy. on one hand, they are trying to appeal to the trump voter. they re trying to supercharge that vote. but also appeal to what they call the kasich republican, the moderate republican. he talked about that in the clip you played. my question is, can you bifurcate that? can you bring trump in? can you bring pence in? while also not turning off those exact voters that you re also trying to appeal to. the soft 20. but also then energizing democrats. trump comes in and you can energize democrats as well who say, like, hey, this is our chance to stop him. look not just what it would do for the agenda, but impeachment is on the lips and minds of a lot of democrats. i think a lot of house republican incumbents are going to say, go play in the senate races, if this one goes down. up next, new, this just in, rudy giuliani just gave cnn an update on when president trump s legal team will get back to robert mueller. have we heard this story before? u to get your windshield fixed. teacher: let s turn in your science papers. tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. student: i did mine on volcanoes. teacher: you did?! oh, i can t wait to read it. tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage. she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we d be there. teacher: you must be pascal. tech: yes ma am. tech vo: saving her time. 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or do they have to make a decision? it does feel like we re close to that point in time. it s hard to read the tea leaves on these things, but if you look at the tweets, it seems in some ways like the president is setting the stage for not cooperating with the probe at this point. all the talk of the 17 angry democra democra democrats and building up the language with the probe, we ll see what happens. and to the president s state of mind, i think it s fascinating the white house press secretary has said the president believes manafort was treated unfairly. the president has conveyed that himself. two other people the president thought were treated unfairly, joe arpaio. it raises the question, at least in my mind, does manafort think his end game is ultimately clemency. and the president s team has also upped its attacks on the credibility of the mueller probe. you can do that on television or in a court of law. every time it s been done in a court of law, mueller has won. when we come back, another tweet from the president endorsing another republican candidate. this one shares his views that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that s my robe. is it? 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john, we should also note the government accountability office is a nonpartisan watchdog that reports to congress. in this report that came out just around an hour ago, they say that the department of homeland security, which has been tasked with building this wall and specifically its subsidiary, the customs and border protection, is proceeding without key information on cost. as a result, they risk wasting some of the billions of dollars that have been allocated for this project. they say that cbp is looking at different infrastructure, looking at different locations without taking into consideration the cost. they re also ignoring some of the previous assets that are there, parts of the fence along that border that are already there, specifically in the rio grand grandevalley. as a result, some of those billions of dollars risk being wasted. john, i want to read part of the conclusion in this 50-page report put out by the gao today. it reads, dhs faces an increased risk that the border wall system program will cost more than projected, take longer than planned, or not fully perform as expected. without assessing costs when prioritizing locations for future barriers, cbp does not have complete information to determine whether it is using its limited resources in the most cost effective manner and does not have important cost information that would help it develop future budget requests. so john, essentially the gao is saying that if you re going to spend this money, spend it correctly and spend it wisely. john? think it through first maybe. alex, great reporting. appreciate that. we ll see if this report comes up when the president and congress have to debate a new spending plan. up next, the president says he deserves some bragging rights if you look at his record compared to president obama s at this point. we ll show you the fact check, number by number. stay with us. ooh, heaven is a place on earth bragging rights for his record, especially if you compare it to his predecessor, sharing this one tweet that looks at him and president obama. here s the tweet. presidential approval numbers, very good, strong economy, military and just about everything else, better numbers than obama at this point by far. we re winning on just about every front, and for that reason, there will not be a blue wave, but there might be a red wave. that s what the president says on twitter. here s a side-by-side comparison of some of the numbers at the same point in their presidency. guess what? president trump is right, especially on the economics. remember the times. president trump took office at a time the economy was booming. president obama took office in a recession, after a financial crisis when the economy was tanking. job approval, if you look at the margin of error, president obama was a little above, but they re roughly the same. the unemployment rate, president trump does deserve bragging rights. again, consider the times though. jobs added versus jobs lost, we were still deep in the recession when president obama took over. a lot of republicans don t like the deficits under president trump, but higher under obama at this point. economic growth, certainly, just trying to crawl out of the recession there. president trump has ever right to be happy about 4.1 gdp in the last quarter. that is why when the president is on the campaign trail, he says look at the numbers. why aren t we doing better? i purposely didn t mention the kind of numbers we re achieving because i didn t want to be accused of exaggeration. if i would have said 4.1% gdp, they would have it would have been major headlines. by the way, it s going a lot higher. you can mark my words. you know, if i get the trade deficits down, they never tell you this, if i get the trade deficits down bring them down. if i bring the trade deficits down, we could pick up three and four points in gdp. nobody says that. nobody says that. now, again, the direct comparison to the obama numbers is unfair in some ways, just because of the times. president obama took office when the country was in a ditch. president trump took office, republicans can take credit for their tax cuts and deregulation, but the economy was already doing that when he took office. he does have a point in the sense that why is the political outlook for republicans so bleak when you do have 4% growth last quarter? you do have a strong economy. you do have, you know, record low unemployment. why so bleak? i think one of the reasons is that trump has been unable to keep the focus on the economy. if he were able to just stay singularly focused on the economy, which is quite strong at this point, i think you might see republicans in a different position. instead, it s trump himself that keeps muddying the waters there. the second piece of it for republicans looking out, even past the midterms, is the worry about the impact of the tariffs, of the trade policies, that it will take an economy that should have the party in a pretty strong position and send it in the opposite direction. there s really nobody else to blame in that situation but trump himself. to the extent that president trump has high approval among some groups of people, it s because he scores really well on the economy. president obama did not have that luxury. president obama around this point in his presidency was in his mid-40s in approval. president trump right now is in his low 40s. not a big difference. the one area where president trump clearly exceeds barack obama at this point was an intra-party approval. obama had sunk to about 75% on average at this point in his presidency. president trump is about mid-80s right now. one recent poll showed him at 88%, which is the highest of any president on an intraparty level since the 50s with the one exception of bush post-9/11. it is pretty remarkable. but what you get and what republicans would tell you is they try to sell the economy. in suburban areas especially, like the district up tomorrow, the president is personally toxic and they can t breakthrough. they can t get through the personal drag of the president of the united states. let s listen to him a little more. this is saturday in ohio. he says there s not going to be a blue wave, trust me. of course, most republicans don t. they re talking about this blue wave. i don t think so. i don t think so. if the democrats get in, they re going to raise your taxes. you re going to have crime all over the place. you re going to have people pouring across the border. so why would that be a blue wave? i think it would be a red wave. i ll tell you what, really, i think it should be a red wave. is there anybody, anybody you talk to smart about politics that tells you there s going to be a red wave? you know, the president s always in the run up to an election, even when they instinctively know they re going to lose that election or are likely to, they never give in. obama didn t give in either in the run up to the 2010 midterms when in his words afterwords they got shellacked. this president in particular has really, i think, a way of living inside his own bubble, inside the fox news bubble that, you know, he and his supporters live in. so you get the sense that he just doesn t quite understand the level of kind of the
The latest news from around the world with host Fredricka Whitfield. and then actually never really does do it. like release his taxes, right. then there s other cases where it overrides all common sense, all of his advice and everybody else and does do it. the big question is, is he going to do it in this case? we don t know what donald trump we re fog to get on that particular day. although his staff does say and his attorneys do say that his tweets, in effect, and his public statements amount to his own testimony so far and you can just read his tweets and read his mind and that s something muler is doing, to see if there s any condemning statements he s made in those tweets. he s been warned about that for a very long time. the president continues, you know, to tweet. whether he is saying disparaging things about the process, his own intel community, all of that. how will mueller use these tweets to his advantage? even if they never get direct q & a from the president? yes, well, the tweets, on one hand, the tweets are just irrelevant to mueller and his team. it s just background noise and they re not paying attention to it. in terms of affecting the work they re doing. but it could influence direction or could even with cause more probative questions? it could provide leads and, in fact, even amount to evidence at some point. even when he tweets blatantly that sessions should fire mueller. that s the kind of tweet that could amount to evidence whether the word is must or should. it s important. in terms of the tweets as criticism, you know, that s what i mean when i say the mueller team is not paying attention to that. sure, they re looking for potential evidence there. and so we ll see how that goes. i don t if i had to predict, i wouldn t say the president will sit down with the mueller team. i m not sure the mueller team needs the president to sit down to make whatever case or cases they re trying to make. meaning they already know the answers likely? just to see whether someone s being truthful? i think that s right. ironically enough, most subjects or targets of investigations, when they re given an opportunity to sit down with the prosecutors, it s really in their benefit to potentially talk themselves out of an indictment. in the absence of sitting down and convincing the prosecutors an indictment is forthcoming. it s more complicated of course with the president because there s the school of thought that says the sitting president cannot be indicted. i m not sure that there s a good answer here for the president. on one hand, defense lawyers would say don t sit down in the situation. on the other hand, of course, the mueller team will assume the worst if they don t get cooperation. and then, you know, steve, all of these investigations are taking rather odd twists. because now sources are telling cnn that kristin davis, also known as the manhattan madam, met mueller for a voluntary interview this week. investigators appear to be interested in her close ties with longtime trump adviser roger stone. so, steve, how do you see all of this connecting? well, the manhattan madam part admittedly might be a bit out of my expertise. but i think the hard thing that mueller has to do here and of course he s uniquely qualified, as is his team, is move from all these pieces of information, many of which have significant counterintelligence implications. what are key people doing. where is money moving. what are the connections back to russia. what malfeasance is going on. in moving from simply counterintelligence stuff, which is basically common sense suspicions and following patterns to a legal case where you can actually begin convicting people and saying, okay, the laws were broken here. i think common sensically, everybody can look back and say, look, there was a lot of no good stuff going on here. but turning that into a legal case is something that s a bit tougher. i do think, you know, for roger stone, he must be looking at paul manafort right now going, you know, if they re going to build a case against me, if that s why they re interviewing the manhattan madam and they re going after me and my finances, do i really want to go through this trial so like an imposing fear? yes, it s sort of a warning. you know, like do you want to end up like paul manafort or cooperate and end up like michael cohen. that s a choice between a lot of these guys who are part of this investigation. i think roger stone, things are really closing in on him, and that s going to be his choice too. potential legal strategies here. thank you so much. appreciate you all. all right, still ahead, a letter from the president. secretary of state mike pompeo hand delivers a message from president trump to a north korean official. so what does this pen pal kind of situation say about the relationship between the two leaders? and later, the trump administration separated hundreds of children from their parents at the border. so why now? are they suggesting, the trump administration, suggesting that someone else should be in charge of bringing these kids and their parents back together? we ll have a legal expert weigh in coming up. the new school year is almost here. and a new iphone from t-mobile is the best way to keep in touch. or keep tabs on their extra curricular activities. he skipped orientation for the beach? 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and presumably it doesn t just say hi, how you doing. there must be in this kind of dialogue a tick tock of this is what we re willing to do, this is what we don t want to do, this is what we like. no, there doesn t have to be. you would hope that there would be and there should be. but a lot of these letters are just kind of reaffirming the commitments that each one was willing to do. secretary pompeo has not been able to nail the north koreans down either for a time line for denuclearization or for the definition of what it actually means. it means something very different to north korea than it does to the united states. and as soon as secretary pompeo left after shaking hands with the north korean foreign minister and exchanging some pleasantries, as soon as he left that meeting of asean nations in singapore, the north korean foreign minister was blasting the united states for not lifting sanctions, for saying that it needs these type of confidence building measures. so although certainly rhetoric has improved since a year ago when it was all fire and fury, there s not a lot of progress in terms of the denuclearization. last hour you reported the u.s. says that north korea is evading sanctions. but what does this mean? no surprise there, right? it s no surprise. but the problem is when the two leaders met and there s this agreement to kind of move forward, countries thought they could relax on the sanctions. so there s an oil ban, a petroleum ban, against north korea. now there seems to be transfers of oil, ship to ship transfers. and russia is responsible. china s responsible. they have pictures. also north korea s defying an arms embargo, trying to ship light arms place, proliferating weapons. so as the u.s. and north korea start to move closer together, countries feel that they can relax some of those sanctions and now north korea could get some of the retch knew that sanctions have been designed to put pressure to get them to give up the nuclear program. we ll see what s next. elise labbott, thanks so much. now to iran where the country s navy is holding military exercises in the strait of hormuz in the persian gulf and the war games come as the trump administration is preparing to reinstate sanctions against iran and president trump and iranian leaders have spent the past few weeks exchanging threats on social media. cnn s international diplomatic editor nic robertson joining me right now. nic, no accident that iran has chosen the strait of hormuz to flex its military muscle. this is a major shipping area. what is the message being sent? really seems to be the message being sent that if iran so chooses, it can disrupt the world s oil fields. 20% of the world s oil passes through there. it s a major choke point effectively. and impacting one oil tanker, never mind shutting down the whole straits, would put a spike, a nasty spike into oil markets. perhaps trigger higher fuel costs for us. the reality is we don t know why iran has put these military exercises into play right now. the timing of course right before in position of sanctions on them, because they ve because president trump unilaterally pulled out of that international joint program with iran and iran s commitment to denuclearize. that really puts economic pressure on iran. so i think the indicators here are absolutely as you say they re flexing their muscles at a strategic choke point that could have huge impacts, huge economic impact, were they to push ahead with some nefarious activity. no indication that s going to happen. the iranians didn t talk about this military exercise publicly. often they do. so the moment, it s just a lot of questions around it, fredricka. all right, that s at the straight s of hormuz. u.s. and turkey, both of these countries have frozen the assets of key officials. is this all over the pastor being held in turkey? it seems to be, though there are other issues in the background, you know, the decision to suspend the sales of f-35 fighter aircraft to turkey. that was a decision taken by the senate recently that put that decision off now to wait for a report from the pentagon in 90 days. so the turkish are not happy about that. there s turkish banking officials that are currently going through the courts because the united states accuses them of trying to get around sanctions on iran, sanctions busting there. there s differences of opinion over syria. but it does seem to be the issue. he has really brought things to a fore. earlier in the week, the united states deciding to sanction the justice minister and interior minister. we heard from turkey s foreign minister in the middle of the week, saying they would reciprocate. despite the fact that the turkish foreign minister met with secretary of state pompeo in the past few hours and the readout from that meeting was positive, constructive that they thought they were making ground on this issue that it could be resolved in a number of days or weeks. now we hear from turkey s president today, reciprocating, as the foreign ministry warned they would, by sanctions on the turkish assets of the united states justice and interior ministers. now, obviously, the united states doesn t have justice and interior ministers and turkey hasn t yet said who these people are, but it looks like it could be attorney general jeff sessions. it looks like it could be secretary of homeland security krist kristirstjen nielsen. so the impact this would have would be minimal. but the signaling, it s not a positive development for getting him back to the united states or even out of house detention where he is now. nic robertson, thank you. coming up, hundreds of children and parents still apart after being separated at the border. but whose job should it be to bring them back together? 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well, right now, they really do not have any options, so it does look like that the government will continue to, in the search for these children. remember, most of the children that were separated from the parents, at the point where we are right now, most of those children have been reunited with their families. the children who are at issue now are about 400, 500 children. many of their parents have been deported to central america. the problem is now the government is saying it wants to essentially abdicate responsibility for finding them and reuniting them with their parents. now, both legally and practically, this is this is really just an astonishing position. because first of all, when the government took these children into its custody, it assumes a duty of care for them. unresolved issues including potential asylum cases. so the government cannot just hand them off to a third party. the fact is, the aclu has done tremendous work on behalf of these children and families. the aclu is not an arm of the federal government. so for example even if they wanted to, a group like the aclu cannot go to central america and command and work with local officials to help them find these families. they don t have that authority. they cannot go to a consulate, for example. and meet with government officials and work with them and demand that they help them find these parents. the judge s ruling is reminding that it s not the aclu or any other ngo group that took intake of these kids. exactly. made any kind of, you know, record or cataloging of parents and children. but presumably based on the judge s ruling, the government would have done that. so is equipped or should be equipped to try to locate parents who have been deported or simply parents and children who have been separated. but the administration has already spoken essentially. saying it didn t do a good job of cataloging. so now why should anyone think that as a result of the government s actions, these reunifications will take place? well, the reunifications are going to take place for most because they have to. the judge has issued but if they didn t, if people did not do a good job of once they deported, they didn t find out how to, you know, reach that parent whose child is still in detention. why is anyone convinced, you know, that the government will then do the leg work to find a parent who has been deported and reunify them with a child who may be in iowa, maryland, new york and in a facility in texas. there are about 100 children in the united states where the government doesn t know exactly where they are. the reason is because what came out of this latest hearing with the judge and the parties involved is that the government, number one, has had no plan. they re basically winging it in terms of the reunification. and there s no specific point person. what the judge said to them, the judge gave them very specific orders. number one, that the next status meeting on august 10th, the judge wants to see a specific plan. it wants a process in place. do you have confidence in that august 10th deadline being met? i think the government at this point is doing good faith efforts. but the second thing that the government asks for not asks for, ordered the government to do is to put a point person in place. one person to be in charge of leading this effort. because one of the big problems we re seeing leading up to this is that the agencies involved in reuniting the children thus far, including i.c.e., the office of refugee and resettlement, dhs, their computers don t even talk to each other. they re work on databases that don t even connect. so that has hamperred the whole process immensely. the aclu has volunteers of their own volition to say they ll help the government to reach out to these families to try to make connections in central america. i want to remind people of something that s a very important practical consideration. when we talk about the reunification of parents who have already been deported. these are people who left those countries under very desperate circumstances. they left because they were afraid of gang violence or because they were maybe facing death threats. so when they go back, they re most likely in hiding or in a new location or in very remote areas. so that makes the process of finding them even more difficult. so now it seems that the judge is losing patience. he expressed anger. he was annoyed the government has not been more on track with reunifications. hopefully going ahead the government will make a stronger effort to find these families. i read there have been so many cases of parents who have been deported who were told one thing only to find out that once they were deported they were not leaving with their child or they were leaving without the information in which to retrieve their child later. so there s such a variety of circumstances that it s made that s one of the other big issues that the aclu is following up on. whether the parents who have been removed from the country knowingly waived their rights or did it with full understanding of, you know, the documents that they were signing, the consequences. we ll leave it there for now. thank you so much. undocumented immigrants already living in the united states are facing a growing health crisis. regardless of disease, condition or disability, undocumented men, women and children essentially cannot be treated until they are on the brink of death. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has one mother s story. reporter: in order to really understand what s going on here, you re going to need to suspend disbelief. lucia is dying. her lungs drowning in fluid. her electrolytes are fluctuating wildly. and her heart is precariously close to shutting down. this 51-year-old mother and undocumented immigrant has end stage renal disease. full-on kidney failure. the function of the kidneys is to filter blood of excess toxins and excess fluid. when both kidneys stop working, people on average will live anywhere from 10 to 14 days. and so to continue living, you need some process to filter blood, which is a dialysis machine. reporter: for most people that treated the problem. but here s the thing. lucia is allowed treatment only when she essentially arrives at death s door. the emergency medical treatment act of 1986 says hospitals in the united states must care for anyone with a medical emergency, regardless of their citizenship or ability to pay. but they re not obligated to prevent that emergency from happening in the first place. what is happening inside the body? for these patients, because they only come in once a week, instead of the three times per week, excess fluid, it stays in their body and it goes into their lungs, goes into their legs. separate from that, the toxins build up. one of the most important toxins being potassium. which at high levels can make the heart stop. reporter: this is no way to live. about as close to death as you can get. what s more, research shows that treating patients with emergency dialysis versus standard dialysis is nearly four times more expensive because these patients like lucia are so much sicker when they come in for treatment. they re literally pushing themselves to the brink of death to get this treatment. am i overstating that? no, not at all. reporter: there is no question it works. lucia. just look at lucia now. after dialysis removed ten liters of fluid from her body. how are you feeling? translator: right now, i feel good. reporter: still, lucia is always worried. mostly about her family. especially her son alex. he watches his mother steadily decline every single week. this is their life. how hard has this been on your family? translator: it s been really hard. it s been really hard for my family. the worst is for my son. he worries about me. reporter: because just a few days from now, like clock work, lucia will once again go to the precipice of death just so she can live. i ll tell you, it s unclear how long lucia can carry on like this, week after week, going to this plus businerecipice of dea. a kidney transplant would improve her life, cut down on her care costs. she is not eligible for that. she is eligible to donate her other organs whenever she passes. that is the reality of the situation for people like lucia. all right, sanjay gupta, thank you. still ahead, tough questions for one of college football s top coaches. what did urban meyer know about domestic dispute allegations against one of his coaches? and when did he know it? your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or have symptoms such as: fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough. before starting tremfya® tell your doctor if you plan to or have recently received a vaccine. ask your doctor about tremfya®. tremfya®. because you deserve to stay clearer. janssen wants to help you explore cost support options. you finayou know it! chair? 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its conclusion. i m david gura. i ll be back at 2:00 3:00 saturday and sunday of next week. you can find me on instagram and twitter at david gura between now and then for the promised conversation about collusion. i turn things over to my colleague, yasmin vossoughian. hello, i m yasmin vossoughian. family matters. a new tweet from president trump raising serious questions about his son s 2016 meeting with a russian lawyer. the changing story and how it could impact the mueller probe. will he or won t he? the trump team s cliffhanger on whether the president will speak to the special counsel. a decision think come this week, although we ve been saying that for weeks. how that historic meeting could play out. and a red wave. president trump suggesting republicans will win big league if they make the mid terms a referendum on him. do democrats have a clear enough message to counter the president s rhetoric? lots to cover, he have beeevery. here we go. the problem here is that now he and his son are really in the crosshairs. it s very clear, the president has just said that that meeting was to get dirt on an opponent. the real question here is, would a meeting of that nature constitute a violation the meeting itself constitute a violation of the law? i think there s plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight. the question is, how would it be illegal? this is the noose tightening very, very, very much around donald trump s neck, and the neck of his son. another weekend, another tweet storm, everybody. just one day off the washington post reporting the president was privately fuming over the mueller investigation. the president, he took it public, surprise, surprise. firing off half a dozen tweets in the early hours of the morning. i guess his golf game hadn t got going quite yet. attacking the press, defending his son, and rewriting history Yasmin Vossoughian hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Yasmin Vossoughian hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. they re a witness. so tweets and political rhetoric in the courtroom is really kind of disregarded as not as credible. but, of course, we re talking about public opinion. this is a new age where we put everything on social media. there has to be some precedence set. and i think that we re going to get those precedents with president trump. because this is the first time we ve had a president or anyone of his stature using this as a public forum. so i think that we re going to get a lot of precedence. do we have it right now? right now it s gray. it s vague. you know, again, twitter is a private company. it s not considered a public. which is a whole another story. right. so these four years are going to be precedent-setting, not only with the law, but evidence in the courtroom, how we explain it, how we even put it into evidence. even with the manafort trial. these things are cases of first impression. so now we are setting the precedent. it s not just tweets. we also have lies, right? what we have do we? we do. we absolutely do. do we? do tell, my friend. our political opponent from russia. so there s one more thing conspiracy. to commit what illegal act. on trial, my friend. to take the white house that s what i m saying. foreign adversary. again, it s very broad. you re not allowed to steal the presidency. you re not allowed to cheat to win it. those are illegal things. that s what conspiracy means. you re not going to get that conclusion out of tweets, is what i m saying. do we have specific evidence and facts and that s an opinion. if you re don, jr., you re not happy your father just said you took that meeting for that purpose. there was a reason they lied in the first place. we already knew that by the way. let me bring up one more thing. sekulow is telling us, from what we understand, don, jr., has not been interviewed by mueller yet, evan. what does that say? does that mean an indictment for the president s son, eldest son, is in the pipeline? and by the way, we know kushner has been interviewed twice. to me it says that mueller and again, i m not an attorney. but common sense would say that mueller looks at don, jr. as somebody who may have significant legal vulnerability, given his actions. and he is worth putting off for now, because there are a bunch of people to interview first, because they re investigating don junior, because potentially don junior could be a target. if you were don junior s attorney, would you make sure he was ramping up all efforts to defend the possible indictment in the future? again, with the obstruction of justice, it s really very broad and you need specific intent. and federal courts are really split on that. as an attorney, you can only advise them so much. the first thing i would say is everybody needs to be quiet and shut up and stop tweeting. hello! i mean, as an attorney, that s the first thing you tell somebody. is be quiet. but you have to understand with both the conspiracy and also the obstruction and i m speaking as an attorney here, as if it were a client. yeah. they are very broad, and you can say they re lies, but you have to give the witness or defendant an opportunity to explain. mueller is not going to sit down until he has all his ducks in a row, all his information a row. because he knows when he sits down with him he s going to have an attorney, right? so you want to squeeze, which is what every investigator does, i think evan would agree with me. you re going get all of the information and squeeze it from other people, give them immunity and get the information. because don junior is not going to say, yeah, i did it. so here s what we ve got to get to now. is the president s admission, everybody, about that trump tower meeting going to impact his potential sitdown with bob mueller? it s a high-stakes negotiation going on right now before our eyes. we re going to be right back. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast-acting, long-lasting relief, try doctor recommended gaviscon. it quickly neutralizes stomach acid and helps keep acid down for hours. relieve heartburn with fast- acting, long-lasting gaviscon. unless they can satisfy us that there is some basis for this investigation. we haven t made a final decision. there is still a slight opening. we re still i m not going to give you a lot of hope it s going to happen. we haven t stopped negotiating. already hearing some sighs. i feel like you guys are geared up and ready to go. but i want to play jay sekulow he was really doing the tour this morning on abc once again, talking about whether the president wants to sit down with mueller, even though we just heard rudy guiliani says that, you know, they have got to prove it to him whether or not he s going to sit down. let s watch. the president has been clear that he wants to interview. i will tell you, his legal team is concerned. a subpoena for live testimony has never been tested in court as to a president of the united states and there s a lot of language, articles and precedent against that. but if that decision is made, we ll prepare to handle it in court. so it seems as if he s saying we want to take it all the way up to the supreme court if, in fact, that happens, karen. you know, it s interesting. because one of the things that i always do with my client is it s a strategy, right? throw me under the bus. i m the bad guy, i m the one telling you, right, that i don t want you to do this. all right? so you can say to everyone that you want to testify. that you want to give testimony. i m telling you as your attorney i don t want to do it. so you can tell everybody and throw me under the bus and say it s your attorney who doesn t want you to do it. and it seems like that s what s going on here. right? the president wants to listen, he s the president of the united states. he wants the citizens of the united states or is this, you know, a defense strategy. and it s something that attorneys do auto of the time. i m the bad guy. tell them you have an attorney. tell them you really want to talk to them. but your attorney won t let you. so is this a sekulow/guiliani good guy/bad guy situation? it s a good strategy. the reason this has never been tested, other presidents submit themselves to the rule of law. it would be shocking for a president to refuse to assist and cooperate with an investigation into whether or not a foreign country meddled with our election. now, that s i say that as an american. as a person with legal training, i would look at a invitation to sit down and talk with mueller like it was a wedding invitation from the phrase. there s no way trump should sit down if he can possibly avoid it. but that doesn t make it a good thing. right. here s the thing, though. this president is different. than other leaders that we have had in this country. and i say that, because he consistently contradicts himself as we saw on twitter. it seems to me as if that is the exact reason as to why his legal counsel would not want him to sit down with mueller. because he could very well talk himself into a corner. he certainly doesn t seem to understand the facts around him. he forgets what he s done. he forgets what he s said. he doesn t care. he would be the worst possible i m not an attorney, but i can t imagine something more frightening than having that as a client going to sit in front of mueller. but i want to go back to something that sekulow said, where he suggested that he would take this all the way to the supreme court. because something else very important is happening side by side with the mueller investigation. and that is the attempt to nominate brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. oh, no, right? we know so much about brett cavanaugh. and one of the things that just came out in the last couple of weeks is how much he believes, after his own experience with ken starr and the clinton white house, he believes that a sitting president should not be investigated, cannot be indicted, should not be compelled to have exactly the kind of meeting we re talking about right now. so should he manage to ram this nomination through and sit this man on the court before or while this decision has to be made, he knows that he has just given a lifetime appointment to a justice who is going to side with him that he shouldn t have to be involved in any of this. that s really the question here, evan. is will kavanaugh get into this seat before this goes down the road in which trump is sitting down with mueller and could talk himself into a corner. that s clearly that would be to the president s advantage, if he is sitting in place. based on comments that kavanaugh has made, i think so. or at least there is a reason to believe that. but, look, i think we would be fools to believe that the president actually wants to sit down with mueller. we would be fools absolutely. the president does what the president wants to do. and routinely, the president is told, don t say this, don t congratulate, don t do this, don t do that. and he does it anyway. but is he a man who thinks that everything he says is right. yeah, but look part of me thinks he wants he thinks explain himself out of this situation. i know that s been reported. i have a hard time buying it. i think the president is somebody who understands power dynamics. and he s a narcissist and he has impulse control and all of these things. but he has some areas of i ll say it genius that he uses for evil. and one of those things is understanding power dynamics. and bullies are often like this. but they understand when they re facing someone who is more powerful than them, for a variety of reasons. i believe trump understands that mueller is more powerful than he is, on a variety of levels. and i don t think he wants to be interviewed. i think the strategy is delay this beyond the mid terms so you don t end up with chances are a little better, maybe, you don t end up with a democratic house. and then you force the issue to the supreme court and you hope you come out on top. you know what, i m glad you picked up the mid terms, because guess what, everybody? coming up around the corner. striking to spark a red wave, or at least fend off a blue one maybe for the reason that evan just brought up. trump says he would hold rallies six or seven days a week if he could. well, he can. he s the president. but are his appearances on the road helping? that s the big question. we ll be right back. 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[ booing ] i don t think so. look, if the democrats get in, they re going to raise your taxes. you re going to have crime all over the place. you re going to have people pouring across the border. why would that be a blue wave? i think it could be a red wave. i ll tell you what. really, i think it should be a red wave. [ cheers and applause ] but you ve got to get out and do it. there you go. president trump in this ohio, his third campaign rally in the past week, trying to rally his base to keep republicans in control of congress this november. he was there in support of troy balderson, a candidate in tuesday s special election for a vacant house seat. polls show the seat could flip to democrats for the first time in decades, everybody. the president suggested that republican candidates should embrace the fact the mid terms are a referendum on his leadership. joining my panel, noelle nickpore. let s bring out that polling once again. troy balderson at 44%. danny o connor at 43%. troy balderson had a much wider lead. yep. and then we had ten points last month, from what i believe. and then we have this rally last night. what was interesting to me in this rally is that the president does not sort of go on his russian tirade as he s been doing for the last week or so. he doesn t he attacks the media, but not to the extent he s been doing in the last week. talk about why you think the president did that last night? was there something behind it? i think he knows it s serious. i think he knows that he had better keep the house and i m sure he thinks other races are serious, as well. yeah, but i think that he is focused in it really hard on this. if you look at some of the states, especially ohio, this is a pivotal state. this is something that he needs to keep in check. lo look at another race. we ve got ted cruz. this is a solid republican that is now leaning republican. this is very interesting. everything is a little topsy-turvy. and i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that not so much the gop, but i think you guys might even agree with me for once. but it s the trump brand, though. we are dealing with the trump brand. is the trump brand popular. this really doesn t have much to do with the gop. because if you look at what happened after he won the election, there was a power struggle. there is the gop, and i ve said this before, like the old gray elephant sitting there, you know, with their platform. and then there s donald trump. donald trump was never, you know, down the halls. you didn t hear his name at the rnc like let s approach this guy for this and this. he really just kind of came on to the scene, and the gop had to adopt donald trump. yeah. this was not status quo. so this is why you re seeing such a shakeup. go ahead. it s just such a shakeup. and another thing that a lot of people are not used to, you re it s a catch-22. and this is why i stammer around a lot. because it s hard to find words to match what i feel about all of it sometimes. because you have got donald trump sending out tweets when his white house or the administration is on all of the same page. we re all everyone is on the same page. he will wake up and tweet something out, and it will change and negate everything that they decided on earlier. so everybody is all the pundits, all the republican pundits russia election meddling. it s very strange right now. let s talk about the president suggesting, evan that republican candidates should embrace the fact that the mid terms are a referendum on his leadership. so if i hear the president suggesting that, i think that he s saying embrace me. because you need to support me, and i will get you the votes you need to get you over the line to either keep your seat or win the seat, right? that s right. to a certain extent, you could also have republicans go in the other direction and say, oh, if this is a referendum on your leadership, maybe i need to do a moral check for myself. right. that could not serve him well. yeah. look, i think this is the situation although i know he s hoping it would be the latter. of course, he is. he s sort of the future of his life depends on it. yeah. the quality of it, at least. but, look. this is the quandary that republicans in competitive districts face. they can t be nominated without being trumpy, without embracing trump. even the ones who don t like trump, they shouldn t embrace him, but for political purposes, many do, because they can t be nominated really without that. but then once they get to the general election, they can t win that way. yeah. and so i ve got this going on right now. that s right. we ve got a race in connecticut. we actually think we re going to he s my client. we re think we re going to flip the state from blue to red. but the thing of it is, do you heavily endorse trump in this primary? because it s going to eat your lunch when you get in the let me just say on this that this is what happens when a party moves to the fringe. moves to the extreme. you create a situation for your candidates, where, again, they can t be nominated without going to the fringe, but they can t win either. if they do that, they can t win. it s an impossible place to be. and it s a good thing, because america needs leaders who are able to unite, not divide. before you weigh in, i want you to weigh in on the other side of the spectrum, obviously. the blue wave, shall we say. cortez was speaking yesterday, and she sort of talked about the fact the democrats need to come back from the extreme, as well. let s take a listen to her. and then i want you to react. sure. i believe that it s time to come home. i think it s time for us to come home. it s time to remember that universal college education, trade school, a federal jobs guarantee, exploration of a universal basic income. we were not all proposed in 2016. they were proposed in 1940 by the president of the united states. these are not new ideas. we are picking up where we last left off. so she s asking for unification in the democratic party, for a central message. even the president last night in his rally saying the democrats don t have a unified central party or central message, which i think a lot of people would agree with. that is a criticism a lot of democrats are facing going into these mid terms. sure. i think what we do have are local messages in these races where people are winning and that s where the numbers are closing in on ohio. our candidates don t want a national referendum. they want to talk to the people they want to serve about the issues that matter to them. and let the republicans tie themselves in knots over trump. i hope that trump campaigns everywhere for them. he came out in ohio first by tweeting an endorsement for a monday who is not on the ballot before he had to delete that. and then he opened his ohio rally day by insulting lebron james. this is the ineptitude of him as a campaigner. he didn t mention lebron james at the rally last night. no, you are right. the bar is low. but would you suggest the democrats not campaign on the impeachment of the president? that s no, i think that obviously everybody understands that the only way that that could happen is if the house flips. i think the democrats are really happy to let mueller do what mueller is doing. he seems to be doing a very good job. i don t think there s a need to get ahead of our skis and start talking about the impeachment of the president. but i don t think it s a down side to talk about possibly ending this madness. but i think the democrats have the same problem the republicans have with the tea party. i wonder they seem like they re leaning more towards progressive candidates, but then there is an unrepresented mass of democrats that are, you know, in the middle that s where we go back to what alex andrea or cast o-cortez was saying. these are actually tenets of the democratic party for the last century. right. so the idea that somehow there are democrats out there who don t want those things, i think just isn t the case. all right. coming up, everybody. it is a tale of two white houses. the president s and that of his national security team, with one openly refuting the other. how damaging is this? 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president trump briefly addressing election meddling last night at his rally in ohio. thursday, his top intel officials warning that russia is posing a sustained threat to the mid terms in 2020. and hours later, trump was once again referring to a, quote, russian hoax. so the question is, why is trump directing his administration to publicly sound the alarm, when he barely acknowledges that there is even a problem? the panel is back with me. evan, i m going start with you on this one. you have the president meeting with vladimir putin, not publicly admitting that russia was responsible for election meddling in 2016. i think at this point we all know why. but why would he then direct the dan coats and those sorts of people to say actually russia was very much responsible for election meddling in 2016? look, i think it s simple. when the president was in helsinki, he got a lot of blowback from even republicans. republicans on the hill, republican national security experts, republican commentators. i mean, there was a lot of blowback. and i think he looks at that, again, focusing on keeping the house in republican hands. and he says, i ve got a problem. if that red wave that s not really developing is going to happen even in donald trump s imagination, he can t lose republicans, the moderate sort of more traditional part of the republican party that s still left, to helsinki and to putin, basically. to his handling of that. so what does he do? he tells his national security guys and gals to go out there and brief on the true threat we face. and later on that night, he goes out to his base and says it s all a hoax. in that way, he tries to have it both ways. and he tries to keep the party together ahead of the midterm. so does it resonate, noelle? do you think it resonates with his base and republican voters? the way in which he s going about it, the strategy. it s kind of a good guy/bad guy strategy. to be honest, his base is solid. it doesn t matter what he says or what he tweets or what he does. the base is with him. the base is moving with him. attached to him. just like a jacket that he s wearing. it s that moderate. it s that republican that was for mitt romney. or the republican that was more jeb bush or the establishment, you know, republican. it s that. and they re going to hold their nose and go along with him, as long as they like some of his policies. i, frankly, think that a lot of the establishment republicans pretty much ignore the tweets. i think you re going to get a big eye roll from a lot of these republicans going, oh, my gosh, what is this? but what this does, it secures his base. it rallies his base. and he can count on those votes. those are solid votes for him. especially right now with the midterm. so even though you have conflicting messages, you ve got the president shouldn t just be counting on his base for votes. he needs to flip votes. he does, but who is he listening to? yeah. i mean, think about it. who is he listening to? himself. he s got all kinds of people around him. he has all kinds of qualified, educated people that know that they have an area of expertise. doesn t matter. it s donald trump. the problem with this good cop/bad cop strategy is that it takes all of the pressure off the alleged good cops, right? we re so thankful, oh, my god, dan coats, you said something true, wow. that people aren t asking the followup of what are you doing about it? so coats and nelson want to say, okay, the russians definitely meddled. but what are they going to do, challenge the president? it s their job. yes. if you re sat down with our own andrea mitchell, basically challenged the president, without directly challenging if he really didn t know. it caught him off guard. he really didn t know. if you re putting america first, these people have a responsibility to protect us. and we re not asking those questions. we re of the president, though. i think we re assuming the president won t. so if the president won t stand up, these people are the ones who have the responsibility to do it. and we re not asking tough enough questions of these people to figure out what they re doing to protect us going forward. well, they re in such a bind, because the issue is, if russia interfered in 2016 to help elect donald trump, then there is a chance that they re not there legitimately at all. so standing up there ask saying, yep, maybe we got here because a foreign adversary illegally got involved they re saying that they proved there was meddling. didn t affect the ballot boxes. they have to say that, because there s no way to know how much it affected the election. we know that it affected the election. we know that the hacking absolutely. they have never said that it didn t influence the election or that it didn t affect. they have said no, they say it influenced the election, but it wasn t actually affecting votes. but subsequently but let me just say, because i come from the national security, you know, the intelligence community. they have no way of assessing whether the russian campaign to elect donald trump, how effective it s not it s not their wheelhouse. they have no idea how to assess that. they may say, look, we see no signs that ballot boxes were tampered with. but there are a whole host of ways. look, when we run campaigns, we run campaigns for a reason. that s to convince people to vote in a certain way. if you re going to tell me that the russians launched a multimillion dollar campaign to elect donald trump, and they didn t expect it to sway any votes, and the votes and the election was in the end swayed or decided on about 70,000 votes and you re going to tell me that a multimillion dollar russian campaign to elect donald trump had no impact or may not have been decisive, i m going to tell you, look, chances are that it did have a very large impact. and that it could have been actually decisive quite easily. so quickly, because we do have to go. but now what? so now what do we do? we have another election in three months. i want to know what dan coats is doing to protect claire mccaskill today. we just heard about facebook this week taking down 32 pages they suspect may have nefarious involvement with regards to the elections. they didn t necessarily say that russians were involved, but they think it may or may not be the russians, who knows. you have people like senator amy klobuchar, who are very concerned about the outcome of the 2018 elections with regards to election interference from russia. so now what? now what do you do? deterrence, deterrence, deterrence. in what way? we have to put pressure on our members of congress now. the pressure is on, my friend. the pressure has been on. there needs to be more. i ll tell you, when i talk to people across the country, still they are not they are not thinking about this russia problem yet. i m telling you. they don t think about it. they re thinking about pocketbook issues. issues they need to be thinking about. they won t think about it until it affects them. until it turns out they lose an election because of it. it already is affecting them. let me just say that we talked about this a little bit earlier, and jess said, look, people are focused on these kinds of issues, pocketbook issues. i agree they are. but i think that our that democratic candidates and republican candidates who understand this threat, they may not i don t agree they should start pushing for impeachment now. i think those who are doing it are making a mistake and doing a disservice to what will eventually probably need to be something we discuss. but i need to hold myself more accountable. candidates have to talk about the russia threat. and they re not talking about it. and that s a problem. there you go. yeah, sorry. thank you. the rest of you sticking around for one more block. up next, donald trump s latest attack, and why some say he could be inciting actual violence. that s next. the digital divide is splitting this country. we have parents who are trying to get their kids off of too much social media and computers, and then we have parents who would only hope their children have access. middle school is a really key transition point, right. the stakes start changing. students begin to really start thinking about their futures. what i like about verizon s approach is that it s not limited to just giving kids new tools, it s really about empowering educators to teach in different ways, and exposing kids to more active forms of learning. giving technology is not a total solution. teaching technology, now that is. stop fearing your alarm clock. with new ! zzzquil pure zzzs. a drug-free blend of botanicals with melatonin .that supports your natural sleep cycle. .so you can seize the morning. new! zzzquil pure zzzs. welcome back, everybody. president trump routinely calling the president fake news and the enemy of the people. those attacks escalating in a series of tweets today including one where he said the media purposely caused great division and distrust. they can also cause war. they are dangerous and they are sick. his increasingly hostile rhetoric raising concerns that it will insight violence against journalists. my panel back with me. i want to play a clip from c-span where a caller calls in and they are attacking, i believe, brian selter and don lemon of cnn. take a listen. it all started when trump got elected. brian stelter and don lemon from cnn called trump supporters all racists. they don t even know us. they don t even know these americans out here and they re calling us racists because we voted for trump? come on, give me a break. they started the war. i see them, i m going to shoot them. bye. it is shocking to hear, karen. that this person is calling in saying that, you know, he s a trump supporter and then saying if he sees them he s going to shoot them. that s pretty scary stuff. yeah. anything that has to do with violence, you know, it s disturbing because as an attorney, you know, we always have to be very professional. for the first time in 75 years, so he s not, you know, doesn t use the political ease. i mean there is ways to get your point across that doesn t insight hostility and anger. and i just it s over the top when you re getting people riled up to the point, you know, sick and disgusting i think are words that make you cringe. i think it reduces your credibility to the point that you re making. i mean there s ways to make the points that you can get across. they should do their due diligence. they should, you know, put more facts. they use too much opinions. say things like that, right? that gets your point across. there s a way to drum up the base without insighting violence. without getting the supporters to do stuff like this, calling in and shea you ay you re goingt roe reporters. to trump it s about winning. there is safety involved here. the enemy is fake news. fake news is who? pretty much cnn. i mean he touches on msnbc but mainly it s cnn, cnn and cnn. and his base who are the enemy? cnn. fake news. but what s insane to me is that the press is keeping this president in check as much as the press is keeping prooeb esi obama in check and george w. bush in check. that is the press s job. we are part of the checks and balances system in this country. it seems that the president can t handle that. the couple of times that obama dared to suggest that fox news was a little bit too close to the rnc in terms of being a propaganda arm, the rest of the media rallied around fox and said this is what we do. and if you don t like it, that s too bad. don t be president. he doesn t care about the journalists because he is going to undermine the media so he can lie as much as he wants. if you don t have any credibility, if there is nobody able to hold him accountable, then he is able to get away with whatever he wants. when mueller says whatever mueller says, when the report comes down, he needs to make sure that the institution of the free press is as eroded as possible in order to get away it from. what do we do? honestly? i heard someone say we need to stop airing the rallies all the time. we need to stop talking about his tweets. you know i m sorry. go ahead. i understand the arguments. you don t want to help him get his message out there. he is a master at manipulating the media. i think networks are getting smarter and smarter with the way they portray his comments. trump falsely claims, et cetera, instead of trump says whatever. and so we re getting better and better. the media is getting better and better. what we actually really need though is for elected republicans, namely especially those in congress to say this is not okay. until that happens keep an eye on these lekted officials. that s why i come back to them. i want the american people to know that if republicans in congress won t do these things that are fundamental for defending our freedom and liberty, this is about making sure we choose isn t it also about the people electing the members? that s what i m saying. what i m saying is if you don t see republicans doing their jobs, then it s time to vote them out. and that s what we need to do. i m completely out of time. i thank all my guests. i have so much to say! thank you all for joining us. by the way, check out karen s latest academic article in the journal of law and social deviance. we ll be right back, everybody. s are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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festival it s been growing since it was first held in one thousand forty seven and just keeps getting bigger expanding to pubs theatres and even clubs anyone who can talk their way into one of the three hundred seventeen venues can join in. there s a cultural democracy that underpins the friendship is so it doesn t matter if you. kindness brought out or you re an artist who s performing for the first time you get exactly the same coverage in the friends programme you get exactly the same treatment exactly the same slot in the end and the bad news of those two. is that there s a kind of beautiful equality between its. successful theatre groups come to edinburgh as well the cambridge footlights are taking their show pillow talk on a world tour the group from cambridge university was founded in one thousand nine hundred three and it s steeped in tradition. every year the company s lineup changes. stars like john cleese stephen fry and emma a journey through lovesickness suffering and confidence the message is simple a broken heart can heal if you learn to accept yourself as you watch. the show with her voice is amazing i thought it was very unique not what i was expecting until hopefully. now most will just keep growing and growing which they seem to be doing really naturally just to get the show in front of us many people as possible to make a new connections. for this day and regina and her band are john tomorrow s another day and another performance at the famous fabulous for it. there s also a big event taking place on bourbon streets at the moment but here it s all about sports let s find out more and today s express. for seven days athletes and sports fans are gathering in berlin s western city center for the twenty fourth european athletics championships on the european mile aficionados can try their hand at various events watch some of the competitions in berlin s olympic stadium and even see others up close and live shot putters will get things rolling followed by race walkers and marathon runners in december twenty sixth teen plants was the scene of a terror. to tax the organizers want to championships to stand for international understanding and the unity of europe. because of the heat wave the grape harvest in germany is starting three weeks earlier than usual like here in lots viler southwestern germany. as a little boy i always used to join in for the grape harvest in my parents vineyard and i can t remember anything like this the harvest beginning in early august with . the wine growers haven t been hit as hard by europe s try summer as others have a grape vines roots can reach fifteen metres down so the plants don t wither is fast. and german wine makers are already confident this will be a good vintage. the traditional summer opera festival is underway and for rona italy thousands of music lovers use the opportunity to take in grand productions of the city s she during. a production of george kino racine is barber of seville written in seven hundred seventy five has just had its premiere for more performances are scheduled anyone all these thirty the rhone opera festival ends on september first. we continue with music but a completely different kite auto bert s folding dominoes on the old woman at not all places mean the same to him as a bunch of good to move that. i hear the same as everyone with this whistle is probably from a ship that he put it through the sounds of the people like but nothing very distinctive could stop him and thereby exist with it all the time is the other but there s nothing yet that i m really interested sure the. result as it always was then will respond more interested in specific thing as i can hear people speaking good i don t keep us saying stuff while i go with all the. folk from you know the haze left things like that and i heard this. subtly. in twenty fourteen assault took his film team with him to martinique that s where his family originated big son pays tribute to his parents who were killed in a plane crash. and you know it sounds like the apes in planet of the. sensible man that s not a bad mix verse but for me to be really interested in the sounds of a place i have to be connected with it was a lot of what people just for could make the other girl walk. last year shot so was invited to make music at the studio been e.t.i. in the french pavilion at the venice biennale zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one evening he came across these young women and recorded them on his phone. tag. the next day we went to the studio of n h u and i harmonized their singing in attic ords to the melody which. conducive enough because of that i recognize their energy of. the feel that they had this kind of craziness of youth that the acquittal in what i like best is people singing a capella it s what s easiest to harmonize almonds is that your. bag because the chef so has perfect pitch he needs it for his audio visual art he s been developing his sense of hearing since childhood. moved to the music so my dad was a physician. and from early on in our learning. process he gave me and my sister some quite strict rules. he told us that whenever we practiced we had to say the notes whatever we were playing so if we played mozart or something it was like this could see them with the truth or if. either will. there is another view that as you go a little goes it s an excellent practice for hearing music so. i m sure song doesn t only want to be able to hear sounds perfectly and recognize the notes he wants to capture their conscience. we get to do divert a goal is to reveal things that are already there this was not so these are not your sister these are. like that sound the idea is to bring everything back into one straight line. through to what s. putting the world in order bringing in harmony and creating new realities. that s christophe for solo subject. from music to a museum but instead of looking at paintings all sculpt just you can drink what sounds weird but the world s first voc a museum has opened gaz where of cross in poland a newspaper headline a vodka is part of polish d.n.a. and we learn more about the history of the national drink during a visit to the vodka museum. warsaw s new vodka museum can make qantas words of its visitors the vodka tasting is part of the tour and it promises to be a high proof experience this is the amount of what you don t drink it warm but it should be room temperature that makes a difference high proof alcohol tastes better that way so this is up. to your health. to face mask i wouldn t say it tastes good but that would be worrying if i had to ever tasted good to be ok i think about peaches i know from my own experience the more you drink the better it tastes in smoke that. vodka is part of polish history during world war two for instance poles use the spirit to bribe the german occupiers it s been distilled here for some five hundred years so it first only for medicinal purposes enjoyment came later as the interactive museum shows that as just a bore them we can read some very interesting things in this book from the sixteenth century the oldest one here to mention vodka. such as recipes for medicines come into. holes distilled what nature provided wheat rye and most of all polish potatoes vodka became the national spirit it s imbibed at birthdays weddings and funerals. it was meant to mark the culture and tradition just like tequila in mexico whiskey in scotland and champagne in france there s something on the front. at nearly forty percent alcohol by volume it s not the healthiest drop but warsaw is new vodka museum does mention that too. and what vodka is for the poets jesus to the swiss many tells a regions are known for something particular we share some of them and i was serious regional success stories for example cheese from switzerland faith this. world white it was named after the region from which it comes the valley in the canton of byrne this is the original even if for more than one hundred years the cheese has also been produced outside switzerland but for the alpine republic it is clear they can only be one real m. and. and that s how it s a hard cheese made from cal s milk and it comes complete with holmes even though many nonspecific also use the name for most women tell is the epitome of swiss cheese. and. says it is even more. this because all get picked this cheeses had an impact on our valley and it s still the king of chooses. what makes them a typical and unique is that it tastes almost sweet. in its hole is a valley in the canton of bound in the west central switzerland some one hundred thousand people live in the region which thrives mainly on dairy farming. to visit emma gave its name to the valley and locals are proud of the bridge with architecture from for centuries. not only in mentalities is made in the region but with its unmistakable red label genuine him until it is easy to recognise. she s naked who knows toy he has to make sure that the consistency is right he can t lift the cheese himself because it s so big. those are the fights there are historical reasons for that and. the truth is used to be subject to customs duties at the border and because each wheel was taxed they were made as big as possible about one hundred kilograms. these weigh about ninety kilos which is a good size for us in the property on those. models for because we then cut the cheese into small rectangular blocks of one hundred fifty or two hundred grams and for mark and there it was for. tourists can visit a special showcased area and been told to find out exactly how the famous cheese is made. it looks like a traditional farmhouse. the cheese is still made in the traditional manner like most today s visit is one to know where the holes come from. that element all these tiny girl. emon talisa cheese with large holes that go through to fermentation process lactic acid fermentation and the breaking down of locked and probiotic acid fermentation which happens when probiotic acid bacteria are added this only happens in em and talk. and they produce carbon dioxide that confiscates and that s how these nice round holes are created to go also and. this is where the cheese becomes. then pressed into a mold and stored in a brine solution. the results go down well with if is it. ok say it with me give me some she starts to have a certain bite to it and the a road has to be a little bit pungent if you research a.f.l. but. very nice cheese is fantastic the temperature is not too cold and it s stored for at least a year or a year and a half that s why the taste is more intensive. it s the infancy flemish muck. it takes about an hour it s across the region of an intel from north to south by car. and a visit to this mountain restaurant is always worth while. she finds its way into all the dishes here. my mother just called them blue we use it in our coat on blue for quite a heavy dish or we fill our ravioli with it for something lighter with tomatoes and all. tomato to buy it will be flown with. the cows in a mental produce generous quantities of milk. and without the milk they would be no him until obviously the king of cheese. and what comes from your region and his famous white that s what we want to know this week maybe it s a special building up to does know this or a piece of clothing as always you can find all the information on our web page just go to d.w. dot com. if you take part your name will automatically be entered into a prize draw with a bit of luck this year max watch this and so good luck now when you watch the next report from on high five serious you might think something s wrong with your eyes but trust me everything s fine we re looking at our that s quite clever optical illusions are a favorite for five feature european artists here are. five european artists whose works will have you taking a second or third look. british artist howard lee reminds us that see should not always be believing. were you able to tell which of those hot dogs cams all popsicles was not the real mccoy. number five artists would make you do a double take. i would leave when it comes to hyper realistic drawings he certainly has the forms. but he s truly great. next up is a veritable feast for carnivores courtesy of german artists. there is the full range of meat products from sausages and how to mince meat except the only appetite they ll satisfy is of the home accessories variety not before you know a list of intriguing artists sylvia who happens to be terry and every going to see a butcher s shop is actually a cushion made of fabric she stocks over forty products in one of the in-store. over in london the historic covent garden market appears to have crumbled overnight and he s now levitating. in fact it s one of a number of installations across the city crazy number three muster of optical illusions alex. he specializes in fake facades such as this building which appears to have been flipped upside down. while this house in the town of margate seems to be sliding down into the from brilliant. it s all a question of perspective as also illustrated by the works of this artist you have to be in precisely the right spot to see them mind boggling effects. number two in all selection of artists who revel in deception they own here being a computer bath comes in handy for the dutchman to mind the effect of his extraordinary paintings he first works on his laptop before translating them onto the street with a critic paint. who s the dummy here then this body paints this serves as her own canvas she s also managed to get her stomach to i didn t know and. decapitate herself. number one artist who makes use of twice serbian body paint loss of bitch aka. you tube channel has had millions of views many tools of trickery are painting a black background and no shortage of ingenious idea. and tomorrow we ll continue with some really magical moments by the way 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