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Joe biden as perspective candidate. we're all americans here, we want a good and healthy campaign. it doesn't do any of us -- >> harris: i know people say they want civility and recently in iowa, i had a big group of people that talked about civility in politics, and they want unity. do people go to the polls because you make them feel good or your wallet feels good? >> sometimes both. >> harris: alex. >> it is interesting, joe biden has been put out there as every man who could win back rust belt voters lost to president trump in 2016, i don't think the evidence is all the way there that he a...

Digits still. the "washington post" points out biden maintained his lead despite criticism from the left on his record in congress, including voting for nafta and drafting part of the 1994 crime bill. joining he is wilkes, someone who knows the clintons and everybody else pretty well on the democratic side. doug schoen, consultant and contributor. i love you guys together. alex, i will start with you. i am looking for someone to paint a picture of how someone on the democratic party can go forth without leaning to the left? >> sure. i think that is a real problem with this crop of candidates. ...

Necessarily standing up for the '94 crime bill. i got stuck with it, he won't admit it led to mass incarceration. >> harris: he will not talk about what president trump just did with prison reform. >> definitely not. i wouldn't want to be on the other side of that. >> harris: how big is the middle politically and the democratic party, doug? >> middle is 60 to 65%, 35 to 40% are what we call left or progressive. >> harris: that is a pretty big chunk. i had former member of the dnc say more progressive number was 25%, somewhere between 25 and 30. so you guys are pretty close what you are saying....