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Could have again put the pressure on the president and made him make a decision. three, the 2020 hopefuls on the democratic side which is everybody's favorite game i'm curious to see how they're reacting. people like beto o'rourke, elizabeth warren. some are talking about how stupid the wall is and the border crisis. it's interesting to see how they use this. >> i love this point that you raise because i think this is critical and it helps us to kind of think about the dynamics moving forward as we head into 2019 and 2020. this divide between the president's base which ali was talking about an...

This shutdown is something he'll own not just now but going into the 2019 and 2020 season that's a big deal because on the campaign trail, the main promise was we're going to build a wall. mexico going to pay for it. what that wall looks like has changed significantly. >> i want to pause you there. you were on the campaign trail with donald trump. you heard him say that over and over again. is what he is saying now, does it bear any resemblance to why you heard him say in the campaign? >> we stay in touch, all the folks who covered the campaign, we went from a big beautiful wall with a door in...

Pampers the #1 choice of hospitals, nurses & parents we're learning more today about a court filing asking the supreme court to get involved in special counsel mueller's investigation. a company wants to take the dispute with mueller to the highest court and they're facing a subpoena and doesn't want to turn over its records to a grand jury. joel, ali and eugene and melissa are back with me. so melissa, let me just open this up to you. do you expect the supreme court to take this up?