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Is that there weren't the required number of security on the ground in order for individual to even move about the country to provide you with what you have reiterated on numerous occasions as being very important at that time which is political reporting. >> well, could you tell me who is -- who are the names on this e-mail that you're talking? >> sure. i can turn to tab 31. you have a book in front of you. it is alice abdullah and -- i'm going to pronounce it i don't w, it's -- >> they were not on my staff. i'm not in any way, you know, contradicting what they think they heard or what they h...

more than 100 interviews identified specific employee, significant employee at the state department who denied these requests. it was deputy assistant secretary of the bureau of diplomatic security, colleen lamb. and, again, she did come before the oversight committee. the arb report was very critical of her. it was also critical two supervisors, principal deputy assistant secretary and the assistant secretary for diplomatic security. the oversight committee found the same answer as the arb. it found that this official denied these requests, and it found no evidence that you approved...