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play-to-play politics, staggering amounts of cash poured into the criminal foundation for criminals, dictators, countries that hate america. reporter: the trump campaign blasted you a new ad, reminding that the goal is to beat clinton. the campaign manager argued this is no time to abandon ship. enough of the pussy-footing around in terms of do you support us or not? the fact is, you know, some of these leaders have been very wishy washy. i think pal ryan has a job to do to keep the majority in congress. reporter: and donald trump is back to attacking hillary clinton s health one day after he released an ad that showed hillary clinton coughing and stumbling during that recent bout with pneumonia in september. trump said in florida here today that she couldn t hold up during one of his events, but we should point out, of course, the democratic nominee recovered from that illness a month ago. jim acosta for us in florida
covering donald trump. thank you. now to the clinton campaign. a two-front battle to push back against donald trump and yet another round of stolen e-mails posted by wikileaks, something the campaign has to answer for. and they re trying to our senior washington correspondent joe johns here, they re trying to brush this aside, but it s becoming difficult. reporter: that s for sure. and it s clearly, clearly a distraction to the clinton campaign. they re spending time and energy responding to wikileaks when the clinton campaign admits it s hard enough to get their message out over the daily roar of the trump campaign, charging that their opponents are in cahoots with wikileaks and russia. the latest batch of stolen e-mails released by wikileaks. becoming an unwanted distraction for clinton. the contents offering a glimpse
the sort of democratic dialogues. reporter: clinton is trying to make sure that doesn t happen, rallying supporters today in colorado. his campaign said they re going to use a scorched earth strategy for the remaining four weeks of this race. now, that just shows how desperate they are. they s all they have left. pure negativity. pessimism. and we re not going to let donald trump get away with it, are we? reporter: ahead of her trip, the clinton campaign release thing spanish ad. we re going to have a deportation force. reporter: in florida today, a federal judge granted an extension of the state s voter registration deadline due to the effects of hurricane matthew.
giving the clinton and trump campaigns until next tuesday to register additional voters. now, if it is true, there s an effort to depress turnout by turning off voters, the clinton campaign says the way to fight it is what they ve been doing, pushing an affirmative policy message by selling voters on something to vote for and not just voting against donald trump. brianna? joe johns, thank you so much. let s talk more about this with hakim jefferies, joining us now in the situation room. i want to talk to you about these wikileaks e-mails. yes, they were hacked, but we keep hearing over and over from hillary clinton supporters and surrogates that seems to be a defense of why you don t talk about them. putting aside how these e-mails were acquired, don t the american people deserve a response to what is in them? well, first of all, we re not sure whether it is legitimate and that is a talking point we ve heard over and over,
street, as she speaks before people in speeches where she s being paid hundreds of thousands by financial institutions, talking about how dodd-frank was passed and needed to be done, that is the financial reform bill that passed after the economy nearly collapsed. she also said to people on wall street, you have to keep looking over the horizon. she gave them some credit for inventing products that nobody has invented. i mean, when you think of products nobody had invented, at one point, that was the mortgage backed security that led to this economic disaster in the country. voters are seeing this, and they re drawing conclusions about hillary clinton being too cuddly with wall street. what do you say to those voters who are undecided in this election and they re looking at this? i would suggest that people actually look at hillary clinton s track record. she went eight years in the
united states senate where she was representing wall street. case in point, after george bush was re-elected in 2004, his top political priority was privatizing social security, which obviously would have been a boom to wall street, because you would have had billions, if not trillions that could have been managed by wall street folks. hillary clinton, along with other members, democratic members of the united states senate, stood up and pushed back and actually stopped that. on the issue of trade, which many people on wall street support, this was only one major free trade agreement that came before hillary clinton during the eight years that she was a member of the united states senate, that was kafta. and hillary clinton voted no. and so i m very comfortable with the fact that hillary clinton, as president, will continue to stand up on the side of the american people, because that s exactly what she did during her eight years in the united states senate on issue after issue.
in the discussion of trade, kafta is small try compared to nafta which she supported and the transpacific partnership, really the trade accomplishment that president obama was hoping for during his time in the white house. and she repeatedly, dozens of times, pushed it as secretary of state, only flip-flopping on her position once she was a candidate. and it appeared there wasn t an appetite for it among her electorate. actually, you ve got three important trade agreements that you just laid out. the first one was nafta. that s bill clinton s. she was the first lady she supported it. she supported it, and that s part of the record. but she was the first lady at the time. kafta is a significant trade agreement, a very close second to nafta. and she voted no. with respect to the transpacific partnership, which is a very
significant agreement, when she was part of the obama administration, if you actually think about the timing of her words, what she was suggesting is that the negotiation that is taking place would be a gold standard how at a time when what was on the table really was providing the president with fast track authority. when it was time for the united states congress to actually vote on that fast-track authority, when we had some sense of what that framework looked like, when there was some meat that was put on the bones, she came out against it. i think that s a reasonable position. it s very hard to take a position against something that you have not seen, and so, when you think about the timing as it relates to tpp, i m very comfortable in her position. i will add that her support for it as secretary of state she never said was contingent on the outcome. but that is your opinion, and i m here stating the facts as we
see them about her statements. i do want to have you hang around, congressman. we have a lot more to talk about. house speaker paul ryan just weighed in on one of these e-mails revealed in this russian hacking of the clinton campaign s chairman s e-mails. we ll tell you what he said and discuss that after a break.
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that was in this batch of what was hacked where you have the communications director for the campaign years before this campaign started talking about catholicism and how this is a more socially accepted choice, basically for republicans or for conservatives than evangelicals, because their rich friends wouldn t understand if they became evangelicals. someone else e-mails to john podesta that it s a bastardization of the faith. so this gives paul ryan, a catholic, the most prominent member of congress, fodder for sure. and he says, the clinton campaign s disdain for the catholic faith and christian evangelicals is staggering. these statements reveal their hostile attitude of people of faith in general. this is the united states of america. all americans of faith should take a long, hard look at this and decide if these there values we want to be represented in our next president.
if hillary clinton continues to employ people with biased and bigoted views, it s clear where her priorities lie. how do you think the campaign should approach this? well, speaker ryan clearly is grasping for straws. he s had a rough couple of days in terms of the back and forth with donald trump and the republican party as we know it is imploding. i do think to the extent we can confirm that there was an e-mail that was written discussing catholicism and/or evangelical christians in such an insensitive way, i would encourage them to take action at the staffers. i think we should continue to celebration religious tolerance and diversity. by the way, it s quite ironic, because donald trump has been perhaps the most religiously intolerant presidential candidate in modern american
history. but certainly that s not something that hillary clinton wants to be, you know, that s really she s probably trying to set her own bar when she comes to this. she is a woman of faith. you re a man of faith. so when you look at this, where do you think the conversation should be? you say this is something that should be brought up with the staffer, but how should the campaign deal with this in a way they may be turning off people of faith that read this, and they feel excluded and like they re being basically told by someone who may be talking about being sort of elitist that their religion doesn t matter as much or doesn t make sense in the political scheme of things. well, i have every reason to believe that the campaign will take appropriate action with respect to the staff member on question on this issue. if you think about hillary clinton s life journey, she s been all about diversity, religious, racial, ethnic
tolerance, and embracing what s good in america and a large part of that is our tremendous diversity. it s a great strength. i think what we have with speaker ryan, he s trying to change the subject because his majority is in peril right now, and if you actually examine the relationship between trump and what he said and house republicans and what they ve done, it s a very close parallel. donald trump talks recklessly, but it was the house republican majority that actually recklessly shut down the government for 16 days and cost the american people $24 billion in lost economic productivity. donald trump talks about building a wall and keeping the muslims and mexican immigrants out. the house republican majority has actually stopped bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform from moving forward. on issue after issue, we look at
gun violence prevention legislation. the house republican conference has acted like a wholly owned subsidiary of the nra because they ve stopped things like universal background checks that the american people embrace. so we can have a discussion about religious tolerance, but paul ryan is trying to change the topic. i want to add that the communications director who spoke about the part of catholicism being more socially acceptable politically for conservatives. i just want to point out she has responded to this, saying she doesn t recognize the e-mail and points out that she s catholic. i want to ask you, the governor of minnesota said today that the affordable care act is no longer affordable. is he wrong? he s absolutely wrong. first of all, there are more than 20 million previously uninsured people who have affordable health coverage because of the aca. the entire nation now doesn t
have to worry about being denied coverage as a result of a preexisting condition aren t some people it is a reasonable discussion for us to have when this presidential election is over and we convene the next congress on january 3rd, as to how we can build upon the success of the aca and make adjustments. that was done with social security over the years. that was done with medicare and medicaid. it s reasonable to say it should be done with the aca. but the foundation of the law is solid and it s been a benefit to american people. congressman, thank you for joining us here in the situation room. and for being so generous with your time with us. we appreciate it. thank you. just ahead, donald trump sees what he calls a sinister deal along republicans distancing themselves from his campaign. what does he have to gain from repeated attacks on them? plus, the plane crash that
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involved in a sinister deal. let s bring in our political team to talk about this. so you have republicans reportedly begging kellyanne conway to get donald trump stop saying this about paul ryan and other republicans who have basically deserted his chances at the white house. he didn t. he said something about paul ryan at his first rally, he did not at the second. kellyanne conway says it s over, but can she guarantee that? not yet. we heard donald trump say lot of things about paul ryan today, noting there might be some cynicism behind this. the point is that donald trump right now is trying to focus on getting his core, tried and true supporters out, getting them revved up, and going after paul ryan helps him do that, but not helping him pull in people from the base.
as you look at that, do you think that he s going to be able to say okay, i was pretty ticked off at paul ryan for telling house republicans do what you have to do to be re-elected, meaning if you need to dump donald trump, dump donald trump. not really. i feel like after the captain con controversy, we were in the kellyanne conway part of the campaign. he gained in the polls. now we re in this donald trump/steve bannon phase of the campaign. he s hammering people on both sides of the aisle. the shackles are off, as he said. briannbrianna, when are we go like stop waiting for another donald trump to appear? he s going to change and he s going to be presidential. you know, the election is less than a month away. donald trump is who he is. he s not going to stop attacking
anybody. this is how he campaigned. he became the republican nominee. that s a very big success for any politician. but the idea that he s going to somehow change his personality at this late date just seems absurd to me. it did seem for a while there was a hope springs eternal thing going on. it seems like hope does not spring eternal anymore. i wonder what you think, rebecca, about this idea that some observers are looking at what donald trump is doing, and they say even if he is not strategizing to get people kind of turned off and does not have them show up, these people who don t really like hillary clinton, don t want to support donald trump, maybe it s something that those folks behind him might be gearing him towards, do you think there s something to that, and is that a concern that the clinton campaign should have? well, he s not really acting, brianna, at the stage like he wants to win this election.
he s listening to people in his campaign, like steve bannon, and saying things and acting in a way that really riles up his base but isn t really bringing in the undecided voters. he s acting like he did in the republican primary, in the face of great adversity right now, not the best polling. some difficulties in his message getting through, and resonating with people. he s retreating back to his comfort zone. and i think that s what we re seeing right now. that s not necessarily a great general election strategy. this is the place donald trump, i think as a candidate, that s a place where he s comfortable in. going on the attack. it might not be the best political strategy, by it s something that he likes to do. we have two candidates in this election. they have their comfort zone candidates. i want to talk about utah. trump is only ahead by five
points, that is stunning. and check out this poll where we re looking at utah. you have donald trump and hillary clinton tied. that is fascinating. evan mcmullen, who is a mormon, byu grad, former cia operative, giving them a run for their money at 22%. so in missouri, the five-point lead is shocking. there a even can the margin of error, clinton would be tied. that s stunning in ways. in utah, i don t think it s all just the mormon vote, but mormons, donald trump has not polled well with mormons, even in the primaries and mormons tend to be republican voters. and it s been mormon politicians, mitt romney, others who have been really critical and scrutinized trump. you know what s interesting
about that, briannbrianna, trum support has held up pretty well in the evangelical community, even though he s hardly an evangelical himself. but it s always been mormons that have not been sympathetic to him. you have the entire utah delegation in the senate, in the house saying we re not supporting donald trump anymore. it s the only state where all the republicans are united in that way. it s just a it s one of the things that i think we ll be looking back on, on this election that mormons and evangelicals had been allied in virtually all recent presidential elections, much less so this time. if we could go back to the missouri poll. that s so interesting, because it s really a signal of where this race might be going. the last time missouri was competitive at the presidential level was in 2008 when barack obama lost the state by only less than a point. he ended up campaign thing in the final days of that race, and
obviously he won that race by a huge margin over john mccain. so if missouri is in play, we are looking at that sort of outcome in this election. i wonder what you think i want to change the subject, because john podesta, you ve got these e-mails of his that have been hacked. you had on friday the u.s. government pointing a finger at russian hackers is responsible for what we ve seen as a lot of cyber attacks. john podesta is going further than the u.s. government, suggesting that the trump campaign is actively working with wikileaks to time the release of these e-mails. is there anything to back that up? well, there is some tweet by roger stone, him intimating there would be e-mails coming out. certainly for the clinton campaign, their strategy is to tie it to the trump campaign to
suggest wrongdoing on their part. but this kind of introduces the specter that come november, is the election going to turn out is it going to be as a voter, there s some nervousness going in. it seems like the truth has been so stretched in this election between john podesta saying it s hard to see exact will you where the base is. clearly it s their strategy. for donald trump at the debate, raising the question whether there was even a hacking period. so i guess my question is, what does this do to voters other than undermine their belief that anything can be true, that they can believe anyone, any institution? i think if there were some interference with actual voting on election day, you are going to see an interference or an effect on our whole process. but there s been such a flood of
information about leaks and russia and servers and vladamir putin that i don t know it s seeping into the average voter at this point. brianna, i don t know what the politics are ultimately going to be of this wikileaks leak of john podesta s e-mail. but to think we now live in a society where private e-mails essentially don t exist, whether you work at sony pictures or whether you work for a presidential campaign. that s a very different world than we re used to. and i don t think it s a very good one. i m a journalist. i like to see what these e-mails look like. but the idea that e-mails are no longer private is a scary thought. jeffrey, very good point. i ve got to get a break in here. guys, thanks so much. just ahead, vladamir putin brushing off the alleged e-mail hacking as hysteria.
disrupt the u.s. election, both by hacking the e-mails of democratic party figures but also now hacking the voting systems of states, a state like florida. senior russian officials saying they re not involved. today, the highest levels of the russian government denying that the kremlin is behind ongoing and widespread hacks of the u.s. election system. the russian foreign minister telling cnn s christiane amanpour there s just no proof. everybody in the united states is saying that it is russia. it has nothing, you know, to be explained by the facts. we have not seen a single fact, a single proof. reporter: russian president vladamir putin going further, saying the u.s. is pointing the finger at russia to divert attention from what s actually inside the hacked e-mails. translator: all the hysteria is aimed at making the american people forget about the
manipulation of public opinion. everyone is talking about who did it? but is that important, who did it? the most important thing is what is inside this information. reporter: but the evidence say u.s. officials is mounting. cnn has learned u.s. investigators believe russia is behind a cyber attack on a contractor for florida s election system that exposed voter data. this after the u.s. took the rare step friday of publicly naming and shaming russia for hacks of democratic party leaders and institutions. white house press secretary josh earnest not mincing words about rushi s intentions. russia is interested in attempting to destabilize the u.s. political system. reporter: democrats claim russia wants to win the election for donald trump over hillary clinton. john podesta, whose hacked e-mails are being released day by day on wikileaks, suggesting
the trump campaign is actively working with wikileaks to damage the clinton campaign. the clinton campaign pointed to this tweet by roger stone in august in what cnn believes he meant to say, trust me, it will soon be podesta east time in the barrel. the reasonable conclusion that mr. stone had advanced warning about what assange was going to do. reporter: stone told cnn that he had no foreknowledge of the wikileaks documents. john podesta releasing a new statement, doubling down on accusing russia, saying this level of meddling by a foreign power can only be aimed at boosting donald trump, and should send chills down the spine of all americans regardless of political party, despite receiving an intelligence briefing on russia s role in masterminding these attacks, donald trump continues to side with the russians, podesta says, even cheering on further intrusions.
writing the growing number of links between trump s associates, wikileaks, and the russian government raises troubling questions about the possibility that trump s allies had advanced knowledge of the release of these illegally obtained e-mails. so an accusation for colluding with russia. i want to ask you about, you re hearing something about a u.s. ship that s been attacked? reporter: this from multiple defense officials. this is the second time it s happened. the uss mason deployed off the coast of yemen. for the second time, it had a missile fired at it from the shores from areas controlled by the houthi rebels. a surface-to-surface missile fired at this destroyer. the destroyer deployed countermeasures to defend
itself. we re told that missile dropped in the water far away from the ship and did not cause any injuries or damage. but we can t underestimate the obvious danger of this. twice in two days a missile fired at a u.s. ship. i m told this kind of missile system is consistent with the kind that iran has supplied these rebels. that is significant. jim sciutto, thank you so much for that. and why this is what we re going to talk about next. why would a student intentionally crash a plane? we re going to tell you what we re learning about this very disturbing case in connecticut. . . [ on the road again, by willie nelson ] on the road again
tonight. aviation officials are confirming the deadly crash of a small plane in connecticut was not arn accident. brian todd is digging on the story. what are you learning? reporter: we re learning the young pilot in that plane was under extraordinary personal pressure. he was a student pilot. that led to a brawl in the cockpit just seconds before impact. the horrific crash of a twin engine piper plane on main street. the student pilot on board dies. the struck outinstructor surviv. the fact there weren t more casualties is amazing quite frankly. reporter: this crash was likely intentional according tom the ntsb. a u.s. official tells cnn the
flight instructor told investigators he got into a fight with the student pilot inside the cockpit. the student was so upset that he flew the plane into the ground according to our source. the source says it appears the student pilot appears he was being forced to become a pilot and was frustrated with his family. investigators plan to interview his family and search his computer the officials told cnn. while we don t know for sure what happened here. there have been previous intentional plane crashes, like this one in tampa by a teenager inspired by bin laden. and this one in texas targeting an irs building. the hartford crash highlights how difficult it is to defend against a private pilot intent on causing harm to others. there really is no way on the ground that you can defend against this. the only thing you can do is have exclusion areas where a private planes or unauthorized planes are not loud. and then have jets, fighters prepared to intercept.
reporter: dan miller is a flight instructor in leesburg virginia. anything a instructor can do to prevent a student from doing that. as instructors we re trained to take the controls from anyone who s doing anything outside of the standard flight regime. in other words if they are not positively controlling the aircraft we have controls right in front of us. we can take the aircraft from the student. he said the instructors have the capability to grab the control yoke which looks like a steering wheel t runner pedals and throttle on their side of the cockpit and guide the plane to safety. what if i m intent on doing something. anything you can do? there are things we can do. like what? i m not going to tip my hand. and before they get into the cockpit they check for warning science. illness, medication, stress. alcohol fatigue and external
pressures. if any of those are weighing on us heavily and we re not prepared for the flight we ll wave off. according to cnn s source there was no recorders on board the small plane so there may be little or no evidence to corroborate the flight instructors claim. despite that the source says based on their initial interviews investigators do believe the instructor is telling the truth. brianna. brian today. thank you for that. and now we want to tell you about a new cnn film airing tonight. featuring first lady michelle obama and focuses on the challenges many young girls face just to get an education. she traveled to liberia and spoke with young women in schools and shared their story. my goal as first lady was to make sure that i was the best first lady i could be. so i made sure that every day i came to my job they brought a level of passion and confidence and trust. and i try to operate from that
place every single day. maybe those are some of my strengths. is the ability to just be me. no matter where i am. you don t have to be somebody different to be important. you are important in your own right. people want and need to value you because of who you are. because of your story. because of your challenges. that is what makes unique. one of the contributors to film joining me now. this is a journey with michelle obama but it is the girls in this film that are are real stars. tell us what we re going to find in this inspiring project tonight? people are going to be uplifted. they ever going to meet some incredible young women facing difficult ods but pushing forward nonetheless. one girl in particular, rafina lives with her aunt and uncle. and despite pressures she s pushing forward brianna. and when you hear the stories,
when you hear how much they are fighting and struggling. i m telling you it is going to steal your hard. this is a beautiful, beautiful project. and there is even the threat of violence. this is i think sometimes we take for granted what it takes to get an education. and they are facing tremendous odds. absolutely. it is not just some of the cultural issues that you face just kind of ideas of inequality between the sexes, financial pressures and the developing world. school is not necessarily a safe place for these girls. in some schools they see high rate of sexual violence. we know in a country like liberia there is a huge issue of exploitation. sexual exploitation of girls. these are real issues the girls are battling every day yet they are not pushing forward. brianna, these girls are going to thrive and make huge successes of themselves. and fascinating. and tonight you are pulling back the curtain and giving us a view of something we haven t seen before. so isha, thank you so much for that. and we will rise: michelle

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house. this is picture for that meeting. and for the second straight day the dow bounced on wall street. truly an unprecedented thick and it runs completely counter to many of the prognostications out there before. yet another record today after donald trump s win. michelle kosinski is outfront at the white house. michelle, the moment today of this meeting so many people thought 24e8d never see barack obama and donald trump meet, never mind as president and president elect at the white house. maybe even not the two people at the meeting. and tonight outside the white house more protests but inside today it was all about reassurance and everybody on their best behavior. what was so fascinating about this, on the one hand you have this incredibly organized transition process with handshakes and good wishes on all sides. but then on the other, you have this intense bitterness from the campaign trail. and today the white house didn t really hold back in saying that
i have great respect. the meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half. and it could have as far as i m concerned it could have gone on for a lot longer. we really we discussed a lot of different situations. some wonderful and some difficulties. i very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future, including counsel. when asked the white house press secretary said all those warnings from president obama on the campaign trail about trump, that he s dangerous, unqualified, still hold. does the president now have any reason to believe that donald trump is fit to be president of the united states? again, i m not gonna if two men did not relitigate their differences in the oval office. trump s next stop, capitol hill. meetings with leadership. the tone here equally welcoming, putting deep differences aside, for now. more affordable and
better. reporter: an impending rolling back of as many of president obama s policies as possible. but the white house couldn t talk about that today, saying essentially what will be will be. america has chosen. my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president elect is successfulal. ending it all with a joking reminder with one leader to the next, not to take question interests the press. thank you guys. we re not going to be taking any questions. that s good rule. don t answer any questions when their [indiscernible] very good man. well the not only how these two feel about each other but also the fact that donald trump has vowed many times to roll back president obama s policies.
is a key job as chief of staff. the other person is a reince priebus. he s also been very integral in trump s world. running the ground population that got donald trump elected. he s been also very personally involved. i m told their bond isn t necessarily as close but certainly much closer than people think. and i m also told by people around washington erin that he would be a consensus choice. knows washington and the republicans on the hill. helping get many of them elected. so that is a choice. and probably the first and most important choings because it is the most personal. dana, thank you very much. and outfront tonight. reince priebus. chairman of the republican national committee. thank you for being with us tonight. i know you are doing this on very little sleep if any. we re told you have spoken to trump about a position in his administration. how did that conversation go?
no that is not the case. we don t i m not involved in that. nobody is talking about those things. and so our focus right now is just making sure we re wrapping up the committee work and then, you know, making sure that the transition goes smoothly and so that he can be well equipped come january. and he will be. donald trump does give you a lot of credit for his win. at that moment when the world was watching him give his victory speech. he talked about you. here is what he said. i ll tell you, reince is really a star. and he s the hardest working guy we understand and i know you are saying you haven t talked about it with him. but you are on the list. steve bannon is on the list for trump s chief of staff. if offered would you take that job? do you even want it? i don t i don t to even talk achbbout it. the truth is i m in my job right now, erin. i m chairman of the rnc. it is an important role we play
at the national party. and it was a great victory. but those great victories only happen with a great candidate. i m proud of her mechanics and data and i think it is unprecedented. i think it is unbelievable what this committee did. but none of those unbelievable things work if you have a bad candidate. so it always starts with a great candidate. and the other thing it starts with is you have to have a candidate that is flowing with the river. in other words the momentum, the mood of the electorate has to flow with the candidate. all of those things lined up, which is why, you know, i think the media narrative was just so far off on what americans were thinking about the choices they had in front of them. president obama and president elect trump were supposed to meet today for ten minutes. as, you know, that was the schedule. were you surprised after all the and let s just be honest here, frankly horrible things they said about each other
that that meeting lasted han hour and a half? no i m not surprised and i ll tell you why. i ve seen president trump in meetings one on one or meetings and things had to be patched up. and people have to get to know each other. he didn t get to where he is. and now he s president elect in the united states. in his business deals, i guarantee you there are all kind of problems he s dealt with. blowout arguments permits or buildings or whatever. he ll walk into a meeting. and people will say this is a gracious personable guy. he s a hard guy not to like, especially in meetings like that. so i m not surprised. do you know what they talked about? have you had a chance to talk to donald trump about it? i talked to him briefly today when he swung through the rnc. but we obviously i wasn t downloading on details with him.
but i m sure it was very positive and the reports are indicative of that. you know, bernie sanders today talked about donald trump on cnn. i wanted to play for you part of what e said. the election is over. donald trump won. i intend to work with president trump. i will vigorously oppose him if he appeals to racism or sexism or some of the other discriminatory measures that he brought up during his campaign. reince you have seen the protests. they are out there again on the streets tonight protests against trump s presidency. does he need to. does he feel he should reach out to these people explicitly and assuage their fears? well erin yesterday morning keep in mind donald trump spoke to the american people, just yesterday morning. and when he was getting ready for that speech, it was nothing about bragging about the election, nothing about continuing the rhetoric, the political rhetoric that was
that was indicative of a political campaign. it was all about coming together, leading all americans no matter battleground, race, ethnicity, gender, whatever the case is. and it was donald trump that led. and it was him that decided this is the direction to go. let s bring people together. let s cool the water. so this is how it is going to be from now. that is what he did. it wasn t a speech nartd wloer said read this speech. no he sat down and made sure it was the right speech at the right time. and just yesterday morning, his sitting down with 90 minutes with the president. is another indicator. people should look at. here is a person who just won the presidency. and he s sitting down having a 90 minute conversation should have been 10 with the president and she s working hard and showing the country he s working hard to move the country
forward. but i would say the agenda americans were in favor of was an agenda that the republican party, meaning our candidate, including president elect trump, house and senate candidates put on the table. the other part of this is that we have an obligation then to pursue the promises that we made in t in the campaign that people voted for. they voted and said yes we with want those things to be done in washington. so those things will be done. we don t have a mandate to water down our promises. we have a mandate to perform the things that we promised. so a wall banni, banning mus immigration from that s not the promise that is not the position he laid out. and this has now been since june that he gave that speech. i believe to either the american leagues or vfw. in june he said his position is if the country is harbor b
terrorists in the risk of the security of the united states that he would take member to suspend those immigration visas until a better vetting system is in place. that is consistent with many bills in the house and senate. and it is what donald trump s position is. so if the media wants to go back now. not you in particular erin, but if if media wants to go back now and stir the pot and now claim he want this is muslim ban that he s made it clear through a three disabilities through june that this was not his position. it would do us all a favor if the media would get together and quit stirring the pot he did say it originally. and i donald trump and then it is going to be certain countries. and then countries that harbor terrorists. those what are those countries? is that nothing to do with being muslim at all? he s got to iron out very completely what he meant because
he made it very clearly about religion. he said repeatedly that there is no religious test. and for you all to be coming back and relitigating something that was that is now five months old is what the problem is in our country. the problem is we ve got to fill 24 hours a day, 7 days a week of cable stations that create these issues that don t exist, and then turn people against each other. if the media is so interested in america coming together, then they ought to do their job and quit stirring the pot where it should belong. do you think reince that he also carry answer obligation? you have muslims in this country who are worried. they are afraid. they are afraid of what will happen and they are afraid of what erin i ve talked to ceos in other countries who are worried about this. isn t this incumbent on donald
trump to come out and be very clear and the leader e rrin, listen. i think you are very good but i m very surprised that this is the conversation we re having. yesterday morning, yesterday morning, he just gave a speech about americans coming together. and you are asking me now on thursday whether he needs to do another i mean, i m not sure what you are asking for. he s the president for all americans. he s made that very clear. we re making it clear. and to go back to, you know, old issues when they have been asked over and over again and have been answer by president elect trump, people need to understand that he understands. i promise you. i know where his head and heart is at. and he said it. so just trust his own words. he ll be a president for all american, republican, democrat, independent, any religion, any faith.
he s your president and he s going do the he s going to do a fantastic job and he understands the gravity and the seriousness of the position. reince priebus. thank you very much. appreciate your time tonight. thank you erin. and new tonight donald and melania trump are back in new york tonight. melania trump spent the morning with the first lady, michelle obama and this is a picture of the first meeting, the two having tea, after one of the ugliest presidential campaigns in recent history. suzanne malveaux is out fror ou at the white house. reporter: one thing to talk about your kids. safe territory. a good ice breaker. that is exactly what michelle obama as well as melania trump did. you might recall, sasha and malia were quite young. and it is melania trump whose concerned. very protective of her
10-year-old son baron. so that is something they share. this is very different than what their husbands experienced today. no cameras not. press. we have one photo from the white house press office. all smiles. we are told that it started off with a tour of the residence. and went to the truman balcony. that as you know erin the place where the first lady and barack obama, the president, spending a lot of quality time there. so it is a special place for them. they took them there. and also melania was shown taken to the state floor in the white house to meet with the curator of the white house. that is bill almond. and he really is a human encyclopedia for all things inside of the building. and so she got a tour and she also got a lot of ideas about the white house looks like. the public space as well as the private space. and all of this as you know really meant to give them an opportunity, a chance to break
the ice here in light of a very bitter campaign. this was with michelle obama saying quite publicly, quite forcefully making her case that she did not believe melania s husband was fit for the office and also followed the rnc convention where we saw melania introduce her husband but also seemingly take a portion from her speech very similar to michelle obama s in 2008. so there is a lot of fodder there for both of they want. but the white house says this is just the first of many meetings, erin. all right. thank you very much suzanne. a meeting would have been great to be a fly on the wall in both meetings. joining us now our panel. we ll see who ends up being the chief of staff. let s start with what you just
saw. the michelle obama and melania trump meeting. symbolic moment but obviously very cordial. both of these meetings between donald trump and the president and melania trump and michelle obama. this is good for the american people to see. because it does represent i turning the page. going away from this nasty campaign where everyone said mean things about each other. now we re moving forward. it is the hallmark of the united states t peaceful transition of power. and it is heartening no see them talking to each other like civil humans. and let s because if anybody wouldn t be able to talk to each other likes civil human, it might be these two people given what they have said in the past. and yet they were so gracious to each other today. here are some of the things they had to say about each other. my priority is my son barron our son barron. i m a full time mother to our son barron. at the end of the day my most important title is still mom in
chief. actually that wasn t the sound bite i was looking for. but phillip, you know they do have obviously having in common. michelle and melania trump. but let me play what i wanted to play which is president obama and president elect donald trump saying such nice things about each other today. i have been very encouraged by the, i think, interest in president elect trump s wanting to work with my team. mr. president, it was a great honor being with you. and i look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. very good man. thank you guys. heartening things to hear. heartening image and hopefully healing for americans who are so divided right now. amazing picture because donald trump sitting in front of a bust of martin luther king
j.r. it is a peaceful transition of power. i do think it seemed like he was a little nervous and understandably so. the weight of this job is going to be tremendous. and i think in that 90 minute time period donald trump got an understanding of just how important this road is going to be. i want to ask on the issue that came up in reince priebus and my conversation about the in this case it was about how donald trump would treat muslims. but there are other groups in this country who are also concerned. does donald trump need to speak to these people? some of whom are protesting now. and say if his policies have changed, how and why? does he need to talk to them david? yes i think he does. i don t think he needs do it immediately. and you have to say both he and president obama have given an excellent tone for the transition. gives us many you have more assurance about how the transition itself will be conducted. there are going to be issues
that come up in the next few days. if trump names steve bannon as his chief of staff you are going to hear a lot of flurry about that one. but beyond that, i think that over time he does need to reach out. he ll have a couple of speeches coming up i m sure public remarks where he can say some of those things. but ify if he were more proactive and call people in and talk to them. that is the kind of smart thing. you sometimes needs to do things that are a little daring in order to get attention and people say yeah okay i get it. should he do that jeffrey? call? have a meeting with whatever group it may be. muslim americans. muslim leaders in this country. zrump a good leader. he s a good executive. the donald trump you saw there is the donald trump that i know and so many of his friends and the people who work for him now. skpoi totally expect him to be doing this.
that said i want to say something about the protests here. i have the gray hair for a reason. and it is because at my age i have seen i ve grown up. and in my lifetime i have seen. and i m sure some of these are the same people in the streets over vietnam. there were a million people in the streets protesting ronald reagan s nuclear policy. they are demanding nuclear free. carrying paper ma shay heads and saying it is not a movie ron. they do the this all the time. they are going to do this to donald trump. they did it to poor hubert humphrey in chicago. some of these people are not going to change because it is their profession. this is not vanity. that is reaction to real concerns. we may not remember exactly everything donald trump said during the course of the campaign but we ll remember how we felt. whether it is the muslim community, whether it is african americans being concerned about the reintroduction of stop and frisk. whether it is the immigrant community broadly. i think there is real anger and concern. look, the tone on tuesday night
and told have been great. so the question then becomes is he going to be the person that is welcoming to all these communities and let people know that he is going to be the president for everyone? i was in the protests last nights. i was watching your twitter feed. it was young people. promptly young women who are concerned about donald trump not because they are concerned about donald trump s policies. they are concerned about donald trump as donald trump. and donald trump cannot sit down with a woman and make that go away. he needs to demonstrate other the next four years he s doing significant outreach and not doing the things people are worried about with women. not doing the things people are worried with the african american community and tot doing the things people worried about with the african american community. hillary clinton seen for the first time since her concession speech. my guest, hillary clinton
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people saw an incredibly painful moment for her. how did she seem to you? honestly i think she seemed as well as anybody could be expected after, you know, such a crazy, crazy experience. i can t speak to how she was feeling on the inside. but she couldn t have seemed any nicer or kinder and gracious to me. you know, i think it was a very dark day for a lot of people yesterday. so this was a very hopeful encouraging moment for me. and that is really why i posted the picture at all. and bill clinton i know was there margo. he s not in the picture. he took the picture actually. all right. thank you so much. i appreciate you taking the time margo. and there are many who were very
eager to see this picture. and thank you for sharing it. thank you. i hope it makes people feel hopeful and comforted. that is really why i posted it. thank you. thank you so much. we re learning more tonight about what the clinton campaign thinks went so wrong versus what they expected. obviously she was out in the woods with bill taking a walk today. and she posed for that pitcher. life goes on. it has to. and the fact they are hiking in the woods. but i think, you know, to that woman s point, seeing a lot of hillary clinton supporters in my facebook feed and on twitter, i think a lot of women especially just wanted to give her a hug. so hearing that, that this women did that, i think she spoke for a lot of folks out there who are upset. and there are. there are tens of millions of them when you look at the vote here. that is how this country s split. and better the donald trump
loss. and the other way around as well. and the new york times is reporting that hillary clinton privately is admitting she stepped in when he did something that . she said deplorables. let me just play exactly what she said. to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of trump s supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. right? the racists, sexists, homophobic, zxenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. and unfortunately there are people like that. is that something a lot of people heard. pollsters didn t pick it up and that over the summer could have started to turn that rust belt away from her.
i don t know if that is the issue. i do think she believes it was a m misbecause she said so right afterwards. i don t think that in and itself was the issue. i do believe that the way in which she characterized some of donald trump s comments, i think that those are things over the course of time we ve seen and i ve rashed about it. and others have remarked about it. but i think she was particularly contrite o about that and admitted it off the bat. i think the e-mails themselves and the stories about the e-mails that have been fed into the narrative was difficult to over come be. do you think that this actually influenced people. i think it did. and i want to in a partial sense defend hillary clinton here. i think she really believes that but she is not alone right and the things she added. i went back a looked at the speech she had at wesley when
she graduated and it has similarities. when i was a wanna beliberal in college. and i began to pick up this the contempt which i believe american liberalism has come to exemplify. and that little statement from her is a snapshot. i totally convinced she really believes it. and more to the point t people that were in the room laughing all agree. ed think you take it a lit too far. they say that liberals have a contempt with the working class which so many of us and to be able to say that she herself has that kind of contempt i think is stretching that comment moral of the story is talk about the candidate. don t talk about their voters. consistently for weeks now. this contrast between the elites hillary clinton represented and donald trump despite where he lives and all his money what he
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and they only need 51. so subsidies and taxes expansion of medicaid could be on the chopping block. yet there are limits. it would require 60 votes to repeal other provrgss such as allowing people to have preexisting conditions to get health insurance. and republicans would need democratic support on a bill to replace obamacare. a difficult task over such a polarizing issue. obama making an appeal to voters while campaigning for hillary clinton. 20 million americans have health insurance that didn t visit before. but make no mistake, all that progress goes down the drain if we don t win tomorrow. democrats in congress plan to fight tooth and nail to save the sweeping law. if we re going to repeal and replace we need to replace with something that doesn t take healthcare away or insurance away from 20 million people. but goppers say voters expect
them to do away with healthcare. let s say every single republican thought obamacare was a mistake. without exception. that s still our view. and you can expect us with a new president who has the same view to address that issue. reporter: passing a replacement bill could take up to two years erin. the entire during of congress. that is if they get democratic support. and in the meantime as the obama administration leaves office they are redoubling efforts to get people to sign up through the healthcare.gov website. a hundred thousand people signed up, the day after the election. the best day yet in open enrollment. so shows how difficult to be to simply gut the law. a fascinating one to watch. but i think it can go in a category of the promise that trump will keep not. matter up. i outfront next, isis
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break news. we re watching anti-trump protests again across the country. as anti-trump protesters. meeting with his transition team tomorrow and the top priority is the 800 jobs that require security clearance. outfront tonight a man who has been working since long before election day on trump s national security team. former chairman of the house select on intelligence and the more. it s been about 41 hours since the seismic event that so few expected. donald trump is the next president of the united states. you have been working with the trump team for a long time
before election day but take me inside the room for these 41 hours. what has this been like for you. well can t take it too far into the room erin. but what i can tell you is this. this is very professionally run. i saw earlier reports that oh no they don t have a transition team. weren t engaged in it. this was very separate from the campaign. if trump was up 50 or down 7, it never mattered. the election came. i think there were some surprises for the folks on the transition team thinking it was a day that we were going to hand in our gear. instead it turned ourt. here is the good news. all of that preparation had already happened up to election day. so the surprise in the election didn t change that. president elect trump is going to get a full and robust package. everything from national security to economics, to all of it. including prevetting of
individuals they believed could be could phil some on these important jobs so he could get up and running and make sure that the country has been taken care of. and i ll tell you the obama administration has been very professional and took the model from george w. bush and said we want to duplicate it and they have lived occupy that. a very commendable transition insuring that the handoff of the baton is good for america at the end of the day. so that part has been really refreshing and gives you faith i think in the country. an area i think you know too well. it s al qaeda terrorists, have been celebrating says it will bring disasters to the united states on the social media. what is your rookieaction to th fill in a candidate who would have won. either one they were going to do this. i would discard it pretty much
immediately. there will be a change. i m sure there is going to be a strange in strategy for sure and for certain when it comes to targeting isis. but that effort is really try to get into america s head and our allies in europe. so i think you got to shrug that off like you would anything else. and remember they have a goal. they are trying to disrupt and cause a little disruption. we ought not to let them do it. and quickly, barbara starr is saying if trump gave the illegal order of water boarding to some generals. so purely speculation and so early. he s going to get in. he s going to get lots of briefs. he s going to understand what his options are. . i have no indication not even a
outside of the bounds of his - legal boundaries. i dismiss it. this is a president who s come in and said i want professionals in all of these places. they have done that. there is professional transition. he s going to get professional advice. i think he s going to take it. and very quickly before we go, fbi special agent for five years. you are respected on both sides of the aisle. a lot of people are saying you could be up for a top job. say cia director. would you take it if offered congressman? i can t even. wouldn t even hesitate to bother to speculate. the whole focus is on the transition and honestly nothing more. thank you. appreciate your time. good to talk to you tonight. thank you. and next melania trump embracing her new title. crohn s disease.te to se i didn t think there was anything else to talk about. but then i realized there was.
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will melania trump be a model first lady? here is jeanne moos. she s been a model. she s done commercials. she may seem like an odd duck for a first lady. but melania trump is just like us. at least on first glance at her facebook where she posts videos of beautiful beaches. and that great aero smith concert she ae tended, as well as the fun night with her two boys, the donald and her son barron. the donald the driving. and barron is riding shotgun. and some of her older photos of fun. bat womanen for halloween. wearing a the cat suit. and then this photo. the okay maybe she s not just
like us. not everyone has fans. and not everyone goes to galas in the designer gowns. and think christian, beautiful job. fantastic job. reporter: you can t say melania hasn t had plenty of training for all of those dinners she and president trump will be hosting. and updating her instagram became first lady melania trump. and writing such an honor to strit white house. little did she know this would end up being her home when she tweeted this photo captioned at home with my husband. don t worry melania. there is a piano in the white house should you feel the urge to recline. jeanne moos cnn new york. thanks for watching. don t forget you can watch

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alt-right movement within which anti-semitism and racist troeps are pervasive. bannon s appointment drawing sharp condemnation. the spokesman for harry reid saying quote it is easy to see why the kkk views trump as their champ when trump appoints one of the foremost peddlers of white supremacist themes and rhetoric as his top aide. the ceo of the anti-defamation league calling it a quote, sad day. the executive director of the council on american islamic relations says the appointment of bannon sends the disturbing message that the anti-muslim conspiracy theories and white nationalist ideology will be welcome in the white house. as thousands across the country protest against trump for the fifth straight day, trump addressing his supporters who have harassed minorities in his first tv interview. post-election. i say stop it.
allen silly is a former communications director for ted cruz and hilary rosen is a cnn political commentator. brian stelter is the cnn senior media correspondent. welcome to all of you. good morning. so, brian, i want to start with you. and i want to get in to who steve bannon is, and why so many minority rights organizations have a problem with him. because he is a bomb thrower. provocateur. a man that is a symbol of the alt-right movement. and the alt-right movement means many things one of the things it means is a white identity politics. white nationalism. that s why we heard some people say this is white supremacy is a disguise. now steve bannon rejects that entirely. says he has nothing to do with that. he told me months ago this is all about populism sweeping the globe. but the bottom line, carol, is that reince priebus on the morning shows today said donald trump will be a president for all of americans. that s not who steve bannon is. that s not what breitbart is. breitbart is not a website for all americans. it s a website for the alt-right. so we re getting two messages,
for steve bannon and the campaign moving forward. i do think, being an outsider is one thing. promoting white nationalist policies is quite another. if you go to the breitbart headlines of the past, steve bannon was editor, right, of breitbart and i m just going to read one, he said head line there not too long ago dear straight people i m officially giving you permission to say gay f-a-g-g-o-t and we re. i mean look at these headlines in breitbart. hillary, is there a difference between an outsider and a white nationalist provocateur? like i think so many people there s a huge difference, and that i think hilary. there s a huge difference, and you know, as brian said this breitbart news has fomented division and anger, and fear in people, and you know, i hate to see, frankly, what power they could have when they have the full resources and secrets of
the federal government to attack people with. and the idea that steve bannon will be conspiring with, you know, right wing media, to send messages out, and kind of appalling to me. but this is really about two donald trumps. and donald trump not having an ideology. people are used to our president actually caring about something. and what we have here is, you know, steve bannon s appointment being focused on fomenting the kind of outsider, white nationalist movement and reince priebus making sure that, you know, the banks get their lobbying deals, and that climate change is repealed, and that, you know, essentially the government is handed back to big corporations, and fat cats. and so you have kind of the combination of these two things, and the little guy that donald trump says he got elected for, in my view, ends up getting screwed because those people are
not going to protect them. well, well here s the thing. i think that there is a line of thought that, that, you know, we ve become too politically correct in this country, minorities have too much power, it s time to right the ship, you need someone like steve bannon in there to do just that, right? and also, trump trump supporters saying when mr. trump says things he doesn t mean them literally, he just needs to sort of even things out. and one good example of that may be the wall. right? because on his website even this morning it still says he wants to build an impenetrable physical wall that mexico will pay for. but last night on 60 minutes he said something different. let s listen. could be it could be some fencing. what about the pledge to deport millions and millions of undocumented immigrants? what we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, there are a lot of these people. probably 2 million, could even
be 3 million. we re getting them out of our country, or we re going to incarcerate. but, we re getting them out of our country. they re here illegally. okay, so, so, david, maybe donald trump means when he says he s going to build this impenetrable wall and have mexico pay for it he doesn t quite mean that literally. but he is going to get something done and won t that be enough for his supporters? well, i think that remains to be seen, carol. i mean, that is what we ve already looked at in the last couple of days with some of the statements that president-elect trump has made. he has, in that interview clip that you just played, he was backing off this idea that he s going to build this big physical structure of the wall across the entire border with no fencing, just a big, as he said, big, beautiful wall and make mexico pay for it. he sounded more measured on that. he has made signals in the last couple of days that he is rethinking some of the specifics on the affordable care act saying he wants to keep in place letting people keep their kids on their insurance plan until they re 26. making insurers cover people who
have pre-existing conditions. you know, if you re a fan of someone being moderate and judicious in the way they approach their job as president, i guess you could say those are good things. the difficulty is that one, those aren t the promises that he made on the campaign trail. and that number two is, is that if you re not supposed to take trump literally at his word on what he said on the campaign, how are you supposed to evaluate now what he says going forward when he s making some, what i would say are significant changes to his approach, at least rhetorically, in just the first few days of his transition? something he seems to be like toeing the line on very carefully is this idea of locking hillary clinton because those were campaign chants during the campaign lock her up. he said yesterday over the weekend that he was thinking about maybe firing the fbi director. he didn t really know. but as you know the president can appoint an fbi director. and then he said he wouldn t totally take off the table that notion that somehow hillary clinton will be prosecuted. let s listen.
you called her crooked hillary, said you wanted to get her to go to jail, your people in your audiences kept saying lock her up. yeah. she did some bad things. i know but a special prosecutor? i don t want to hurt them. i don t want to hurt them. they re good people. i don t want to hurt them. and i will give you a very, very good and definitive answer the next time we do 60 minutes together. so, rebecca, thoughts? well, it does look like he is beginning to back away, carol, from his campaign promise to appoint a special prosecutor. his assessment apparently being that now that the campaign is over, it s less important to settle those scores with a former political rival. and if that is the case, and again his statement is really hard to dissect at this point, and really know what he truly means, or wants, but that should encourage a lot of people on the
democratic side, i would imagine, who were very, very worried when we were hearing these chants at his rallies. when he was talking about a special prosecutor, especially because this begins to sound like sort of a third world country sort of thing that you are threatening to jail your former political opponents once you win. so i think this should be encouraging for a lot of people. and certainly it s going to be very difficult for donald trump to unite the country, as he says he wants to, if he s actively pursuing a case against hillary clinton, his former political rival. all right. i have to leave it there. thanks to all of you. still to come in the newsroom it s not just protests. a new report shows hateful harassment is up post-election. and will having a man with white nationalist ties so close to the oval office just fan the flames more?
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it has been six days since america elected a new president and we re still a nation divided. protests planned again today in tucson and in los angeles. the lapd already dealing with several days of protests. 8,000 people marched through downtown saturday. across the country also large protests in places like new york, portland and philadelphia. this election has set us back, and has definitely shown in the world that we are not as advanced as we think we are. i have been aghast at the the behavior of donald trump. i think his racist and xenophobic rhetoric has been very disruptive. i am a single father. i pay my taxes. i m scared. i really am scared. of being deported to a country that i am not familiar with. the protesters, because of
incidents like this, graffiti reading trump nation, whites only, that was discovered on sunday morning, sprayed on a wall at an episcopal church in a heavily latino neighborhood just outside of washington, d.c. the southern poverty law center says this is not an isolated incident. it has counted more than 300 cases of election related harassment and intimidation across the country. so let s talk about that. cnn s correspondent rachel crane has been looking into it. good morning. good morning, carol. one of the most disturbing things about these incidents is that the southern poverty law center is saying that the most commonly reported location of these incidents of hate crime, of these incidents of the you know racist graffiti are happening in schools. children k. through 12 engaging in this type of horrific behavior. they say that more than 40 incidents have been reported at schools. now, in michigan, at a middle school, we saw in a cafeteria children chanting build the wall, build the wall. there s a video of that.
it s been viewed millions of times on social media. incredibly disturbing. to see them engaging in that type of behavior. also in minnesota at a high school we saw racist graffiti, pro-trump graffiti in a bathroom reading white america, also reading go back to africa. trump let s make america great again. also, in a high school in california, we saw a student giving out fake deportation letters to minority students. you know, this isn t just happening in high schools and middle schools, also in colleges. we saw a student at san diego state university being accosted by two people, she was wearing a hij hijab, they were spewing racial slurs, they skoel her purse, skoel her keys, stole her car. we re also seeing graffiti not just in schools but across the country in philadelphia, because in north carolina graffiti reading black lives don t matter. your vote doesn t matter. carol, just incredibly
disturbing. there are some would say because you mentioned a number, 40 high schools and middle schools across the country. we live in a country of 330 million people, right? so some people might say, you know, so a tiny fraction, you know, a tiny number of idiots across the country are doing these things. but it s not a widespread problem. so how would you characterize it. well, you know, the southern poverty law center coming out and saying just this morning on cnn, there have been more than 300 incidents of this since donald trump was elected president. and they re calling on donald trump to take more responsibility for these instances. you know, just last night on 60 minutes donald trump did acknowledge that a handful of these incidences were occurring calling on the people committing these crimes to stop it. but, you know, the president of the southern poverty law center saying that there are actually hundreds of these crimes happening not just a handful. thanks so much. so here we are. there is real fear, i hear it in
new york, they re surprised at this, i hear it from my family in ohio. so how do we as a nation process this? here s dave chappelle on snl. a few weeks ago i went to the white house for a party. it was the first time i had been there many years, and and it was very exciting. and b.e.t. had sponsored the party. so everyone there was black. and, it was beautiful. i walked through the gates. you know, i m from washington, so i saw the bus stop, the the corner where the bus stop used to be where i used to catch the bus to school and dream about nights like tonight. it was a really, really beautiful tonight. and at the end of the night everyone went into the west wing of the white house, and it was a huge party. and everybody in there was black except bradley cooper for some reason. and on the because were pictures of all the presidents of the past.
now i m not sure if this is true but to my knowledge the first black person that was officially invited to the white house was fredrierick douglass, they stopd him at the gates. abraham lincoln himself had to walk out and escort frederick douglass at the white house. it didn t happen again as far as i know until roosevelt was president. roosevelt was president, he had a black guy over and got so much flak from the media that he literally said i will never have a nigger in this house again. i thought about that, and i looked at that and i saw all those black faces around it, and i saw and i saw how happy everybody was. these people who had been historically disenfranchised. and it made me feel hopeful. and it made me feel proud to be an american. and it made me very happy about the prospects. so in that spirit, i m wishing
donald trump luck, and i m going to give him a chance, and we, the historically disenfranchised demand that he give us one, too. thank you very much. all right so that s one point of view. but this is why many minority groups worry. donald trump appointed that man name steve bannon. a man white nationalists embrace and for good reason. bannon s breitbart launched headlines like these. bill kristol a renegade jew. why islam is the single greatest threat to civilization. the ten things milo hates about islam. and six reasons pamela gellar s muhammad cartoon contest is no different from selma let s talk about the divide in our country with the executive director of c.a.r.e., welcome, sir.
can you say hello to me again? because i didn t hear you. sure, yeah. oh, good. i was worried there was something wrong with your audio. i m glad there isn t anything. there are there are many people in this country that say the left wing is just in a state of hysteria right now and they should give this man a chance, so why aren t they? well, it would have legitimate concerns, and when you when you see that the president-elect appoints someone who holds anti-semitic, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant theories, you wonder, are we going to move this country forward? are we going to heal this country in the next few years? and i think the message that we see by appointing an all-right wing theorist we see it the very
own message that our nation needs now. our nation is divided. our nation has been wounded. with what we have seen in the past few months and if we would like to move forward we have to appoint chief strategists who believe in the plurality, diversity and core principles of let me let me let me put it this way. steve bannon has long been a part of donald trump s campaign. so, people went out and voted. and that includes 29% of hispanics, for donald trump, and 8% of african-americans for donald trump. those are larger percentages than voted for mitt romney. so he does have some support in the minority community. yeah, true. and even a small number among american muslims voted for him. we re not talking about now donald trump himself. we re talking about appointing people who do not believe in the plurality and diversity and the core principles of this country.
and we hold the president in the highest standard in defending the rights of all americans and those who arrive in the united states. by appointing steve bannon, president-elect trump is continuing to advance division and, unfortunately, dispute within americans but what, what, what is your fear about steve bannon? what, what policies might he push forward that concern you? conspiracy theories against muslims, jews, people of color, anti-women sentiment, so, you know, i can t imagine how the president of the united states will bring a bigot, and oppose that will divide america further to be a chief strategist for him in the white house. one of the most important positions in the white house, in the people s house, should have people who believe in the plurality and diversity of this
country to unite americans and to heed the warnings that we have seen over so how will how will your organization help heal the wounds? what will your organization do going forward, now that you know that steve bannon is trump s chief strategic guy? by speaking truth to power. by speaking to the president. by advising him. by telling him that the appointment of a bigot in the white house does not serve america, does not unite america, it will further deepen our wounds. and president-elect trump has said on 60 minutes that he would like to bring americans together by appointing steve bannon, that is not the way to do you still have hope that mr. trump is serious when he says he wants to unite america? well i are you going to give him a chance? america needs to be united. and the president-elect now in a position to make serious and important, you know, statements
by bringing people who are and we believe he has the wrong people to advise him es special ply in this key position. mr. bannon has bigoted views a will bring bigoted policies and that will not help advancing unity among americans, and making this country move forward. all right i have to leave it there. mr. awad thank you so much for joining me this morning. still to come in the newsroom, so much for repealing and replacing obamacare. now donald trump says he doesn t want to next all of obamacare. so does he mean kind of a version of trump care? we ll talk about that next. but first the opening bell moments away, is the market ready to hit another record? alison kosik is with me. good morning. the trump rally ready to roll into a second week. we are seeing the dow open at a fresh record high. that s after a string of big gains boosted by donald trump s win. look at the dow, up more than 5%
over that span of time. that s about 1,000 points. also predictions of a big drop of that, never materialized.ll - so you re seeing investors focus now on pro-business, pro-growth policies like tax cuts, and deregulations. so as we get into the trading day we see the s&p 500 about 1% away from a record of its own. investors are dumping gold, they re dumping bonds, they re buying into the market, and because of this market reaction, along with a stronger economic growth we ve seen lately, carol, we can expect to see the fed, everybody see the fed raise rates next month. all right. i know you ll keep an eye on it for us. thanks so much. i ll be right back. i am benedict arnold, the infamous traitor. and i know a thing or two about trading. so i trade with e trade, where true traders trade
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and good morning i m carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. repeal and replace obamacare on day one. that was donald trump during the presidential campaign. but now that he s headed to the white house trump may be preparing for either obamacare-light or trump care. when you replace it, are you going to make sure that people with reconditions still cover yes. because it happens to be one of the strongest assets. you re going to keep that? also with the children living for their parents for an extended period. you re going to keep that? adds cost but it s very much something we re going to try and keep. and there s going to be a period, if you repeal it, and before you replace it, when millions of people could lose we won t do it simultaneously. it will be just fine. with me now the man known as the architect of obamacare, jonathan gruber. welcome, sir. good to be here. nice to have you here.
so, so what does it sound like trump is trying to do? is he trying to is he is he is he going for like an obamacare-light program? it sounds to me like trump is trying to say he s going to protect some of the parts of obamacare that are most popular without actually laying out a plan for doing so. so for example, one of the fundamental gains of obamacare is ending discrimination in insurance markets. no longer allowing insurers to deny insurance coverage to people just because they re sick or charge them higher prices. he hasn t mentioned that. pre-existing conditions exclusions, that s nice. but that doesn t solve the problem. so my wife, for example, a breast cancer survivor. what trump laid out if she went to the insurer, the insurer could say yeah if we offered you health insurance we d make sure to cover your breast cancer but guess what we re not going to offer you health insurance because you re sick? trump has to address that problem. so, so, so he keeps like i guess this still would have to go through congress, right? so let s say he keeps the parts
of the law that, that people really like. what would that do to all of our premiums? if, if, if he could keep all of the elements that, that you say that the point is about obamacare it s complicated for a reason. the part people like is ending insurance discrimination. not allowing insurers to deny my wife coverage because she s a breast cancer survivor. however you can t have that unless you also make sure that people can afford insurance so that the healthy buy it and you get healthy people into the risk group. to just say we re going to keep the parts people like and get rid of the parts people don t, we ve tried that. seven states tried that in the 1990s. they tried to tell insurers you can t discriminate against the sick. in every single case it destroyed the insurance market, premiums went through the roof and the insurance market shrunk to a fraction of its previous size. you can t have it both ways. if you want to tell insurers they can t discriminate you need an individual mandate and
subsidies to make sure healthy people come into the pool. why couldn t the government put price controls on insurance companies? the government could try to put price controls on insurance companies but then insurance companies could a, exit the market. and say i m just not going to offer insurance in this market. there s nothing the government can do about that. or b deny sick people coverage or say at that price i m not going to offer coverage to sick people. the point is the government cannot force go ahead. it s okay. the bottom line is, you can t have it both ways. if you want insurance companies to cover everyone fairly, you have to bring healthy people into the pool. and the only way to do that is with a combination of tariffs, which is tax credits to make health insurance affordable, and a stick which is a mandate to bring the healthy people in to buy insurance. i have heard i ve heard a lot of people say, you know what, there s 22 million people in obamacare right now, a large majority of them are are poor people who can t afford insurance but if they re tikd off with obamacare they ll just
go to medicaid. is it as simple as that? no it s not. the 22 million people who are on obamacare right now are on parts of medicaid that didn t exist before. so for example, before on medicaid, if you were, say, 25-year-old, or say a 30-year-old single woman with no children, and an income of $5,000 a year, you had no access to health insurance. that simply didn t exist. obamacare expanding medicaid said we re going to guarantee our poorest citizens, very poorest citizens a right to health insurance coverage. in those states that choose to expand medicaid. if you take that away then a woman like that simply has no coverage options. okay. jonathan gruber, thanks for stopping by. we ll all see what happens together. thank you so much. still to come in the newsroom, people in aleppo, syria, flee now or face heavy bombing within 24 hours.
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imagine getting a text that your city is going to be bomd and you better get out when you can. people in aleppo, syria, are not imagining that. they re living it. that s the text they got and syrian rebels in the city are being told to lay down their weapons or die. cnn is following that from amen, jordan for us. good morning. good morning, carol. according to residents of eastern aleppo that we ve spoken to, they say early on sunday they received these various text messages that they believe are from the syrian regime, really with a warning, addressed to the rebels in eastern aleppo, but also to the residents, a warning, an ultimatum, giving people 24 hours, telling the rebels to lay down their weapons, or even leave the city, and they re really warning of a military assault that they say is going to be launched on eastern aleppo. the people that we ve spoken to, carol, say this is something
they ve seen in the past, these sorts of messages, they ve received them in the past on leaflets that have been dropped on their neighborhoods or broadcast through state media. they feel this is part of the psychological warfare and intimidation tactics to spread fear amongst the population in eastern aleppo. but, at the same time, there is this real sense of apprehension amongst the people in eastern aleppo, those that we have spoken to are absolutely terrified, carol, of what they feel might be an all-out military assault by the syrian regime, and their russian allies that could start any minute now. all right. jomana reporting live for us from jordan. thanks so much. still to come in the newsroom more americans picked clinton but trump won the white house. now some, well, some mostly on the left are saying it is time to change the electoral system.
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college over the years, including by the way, newt gingrich. now, look, is this going to have any practical effect? well, in one sense, no. hillary clinton in the end will win the popular vote probably by a record in american history. right now she s up as you mentioned 700,000 or so. the estimates are that she will end up winning by one and a half to two million votes. that s a lot of votes. you may remember al gore won the popular vote but he won it by 540,000. much, much fewer than hillary clinton. so you know, it has practical effects on a president because it gives his critics a useful retort to any proposal he makes. well, you weren t elected by the people. you were elected by this antiquated invention of the founders that fit the 1790s but doesn t fit the 21st century. although his new chief of
staff, reince priebus, put it another way this morning. let s listen. he played the exact strategy that a smart person would play in the 12 states that mattered and he won significantly. so i get the obsession over the popular vote but that s really not what this election was all about. okay. this was not what this election was all about. he said if donald trump had gone to california, he probably would have won california but he didn t choose to go there. there s absolutely zero chance that he would have even come close in california. newt gingrich made the same argument yesterday that if the popular vote mattered, donald trump would have campaigned in california and won at least two million more votes which is of course, absurd on its face. but you also have to ask what would hillary clinton have done. well, her campaign which was well organized and had tons of money would have organized the blue parts of red states. they didn t bother to organize
the college towns and big cities in red states because they knew it was hopeless. they weren t going to win the electoral vote. but if they had done so, she would have picked up millions of additional votes. so this is an argument that is a non-starter. so how likely is it that anything will change when it comes to the electoral college? carol, you know the gallop poll for many users, even decades, has shown that a very large majority of americans wants to abolish this crazy institution, the electoral college. we are the only democracy in the world that doesn t count the popular vote. you can win the popular vote, you can lose the presidency. it s already happened five times in american history. it s going to be happening more frequently as long as we have close elections and the democrats will be disproportionately disadvantaged by this. so all i can tell you is if the
people have their way, it would be abolished, because we are incapable of reforming our system and i say that sadly. the electoral college will be abolished on the 12th of never. just quickly, remind us why there s an electoral college anyway. well, there s an electoral college for a number of reasons. certainly one reason was it was a request slash demand of mal r smaller states particularly those that were slave states, mainly because the founders did not trust the people. we had no popular election in the beginning. we went through five presidential elections before we got to or five presidents before we got to a popular vote in the 1820s and even then it was extremely limited to a relative handful of white men, mainly propertied men. no women, no african-americans, so on. so it s been a long, hard
process to broaden the franchise and this is an important point to make. it still shows that the franchise is not universal because the people don t pick the president. have to leave it there. thanks for stopping by. the next hour of cnn newsroom after a break. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic, why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours.
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lewis was all talk and no action, news came out that he plans to spend martin luther king day tomorrow visiting the new smithsonian museum focused on african-american history and culture. john lewis is the one who introduced the bill to get that museum built in 1988. eugene, you touch on this. i want to push forward on it as well. facts do matter. trump called lewis district crime i hridden which does incl major part of the city of atlanta. no one is defining there is crime in the city. to try to define an entire city in 140 characters of less is a massive overgeneralization. what will happen when he is in office saying these type of things? well, if he continues this,
he can expect to be criticized increasingly but more than that, people really would like to see what his solutions to the problems he arises are. he had a meeting with talk show host, steve harvey, and his hud secretary nominee friday saying they would focus on some of the challenges in inner cities such as housing. if you recall during the campaign, he put out a new deal for black america that he said would focus on high-paying jobs, improving schools and safer communities. all eyes will be on the president-elect to see if he is all talk and no action at this point. eugene, also, i want to talk about this. this started after lewis said he didn t believe that trump was a legitimate president. still, the topic of legitimacy. it came up during barack obama s presidency. my colleague, poppy harlow, touched on that speaking with conservative commentator. let s listen to this. i also think it is
unprecedented that a congressman with a stature was able to come out and say i don t believe donald trump is a legitimate president. i cannot imagine the fallout and backfire you would have if a republican would have implied that about barack obama, bill clinton, or jfk for that matter? that is what many presidents did, including the president-elect, questioning the legitimacy of the first black president. ben ferguson making the point and poppy harlow back-checking making the counter point there. legitimacy has come up before. it has and very fraucoften f donald trump, our current president. we saw barack obama prove his birth certificate proving he was born in the united states, a very legitimate candidate for a
looking for a leader that will be more bipartisan in his approach to dealing with the issues that affect the united states. to many critics, it doesn t appear that donald trump is that president but the fact is, as you mentioned, there is a lot of time left and there are people hoping to see significant change from him. many people that plan to attend saying they plan to keep an open mind to give this new president-elect a chance once he takes the oath of office. eugene scott, live in washington, d.c. eugene, thank you for your time. also, on the international stage, china is responding sharply to donald trump s suggestions that he might change the one china policy once in the white house. that is a long standing policy that means the united states recognizes relations with china and not with taiwan, which beijing considers to be a breakaway province. a spokesperson for china s foreign ministry said, quote, there is only one china in the world. taiwan is an inseparable part of
chinese territory and the people s republic of china is the sole legitimate government regarding china. these are facts recognized by the international community and no one can change this. with regards to the president-elect s feelings thinking about russia, he says he is open to that nation seeing how it can have sanctions lifted, u.s. sanctions. he has indicated he is open about getting rid of those sanctions and he would be fine with meeting with the russian president, vladmir putin, after taking office. matthew chance is following the story live in moscow. the simple fact that president-elect trump is willing to meet with the russian president, how is that being perceived there in russia? they haven t made an official comment on that prospect except to say any meeting between president putin of russia and
donald trump when he becomes president of the united states will be carefully arranged. in terms of the specifics, that s not been made public here in russia as, indeed, it hasn t been made public in the united states either, the subject of press speculation at the moment. clearly, the russians very much want to see this one-on-one meeting between the russian president and the president of the united states would be flattering to the kremlin, because it would portray them as being on an equal footing with the united states. that s been one of have the big objectives for the kremlin to be seen and treated as a player on the international stage and to have a seat at the top table. it is something that is speculated motivates vladmir putin very much. i think they would be very receptive to the idea of a sort of summit between the cold war style summit between these two leaders sgchlt will there a leaders. there are mixed messages.
you hear the president-elect indicating that he would be open to lifting sanctions and open to meeting with vladmir putin at the same time. legislators have a different position. they say the united states should continue a tough stance with russia. in fact, it could potentially get tougher. how is that being viewed with everyday russians to try to square the circle with these mixed messages? if you are talking in terms of everyday russians, i think they believe it would be the president of the united states who would make the final decision? everybody is aware the significant opposition in the u.s. congress to closer relations with russia, i think that is characterized in the russian public as being the vestiging of cold war thinking in the united states p russians believe it is the guy at the top that makes the final decision. when it comes to the issue of sanctions, they are probably right. the vast bulk of the sanctions against russia were implemented
by president obama as a presidential decree. it can be lifted just as easily with the simple stroke of a pen when donald trump becomes president of the united states. those sanctions that were imposed predominantly over the annex sayings of crimea m. matthew chance reporting for us in moscow. thank you for the reporting sgchlreporting. despite uncertainty about trump s policies towards nato, the alliance is push ago head with its show of resolve against russia. it is all prt art of nato s buip to convince moscow they will defend against the election. ru rush has brings ld againagainst
reporter: the star spangled banner play ns poland welcome the u.s. troops for nato s operation atlantic resolve. this is the official welcoming ceremony for those u.s. troops. poland s prime minister is here. she made a point to say this is an integral part of poland s national security. that everyone had a right to feel safe and secure. this is what the arrival of u.s. troops here has done. poland s prime minister spoke to cnn after the ceremony. she said this is very important for poland and the region. we live in europe where there are many external threats. russia s policy is confrontational. this constitutes a real threat. we are conscious that poland must strengthen its alliances. it is an impressive rollout. four battalions of 1,000 soldiers each, more than 2000 pieces of military hardware
including u.s. tanks and armored vehicles coming from the third armored brigade team out of ft. carson, colorado, here for nine months, deployed in poland, romania, hungary and bulgaria. a show of force to deter russia. there is no more powerful combat corporal ma combat formation in the united states army. this is another sign of the united states commitment to deterrence and our commitment to not only our polish allies but those allies in nato. u.s. tanks in poland, the kremlin says, are, quote, a real threat to russian security. still, in less than a week, moscow will have a new administration to face in washington and make its case for policy changes. russia may not be happy with this deployment but polish public opinion, that s another
matter. this is just some of the armored vehicles and tanks that have been brought over for this operation. they have been put on display for the day here in poland to show the public some of the hardware that is coming across. it s all part of this effort to show that the nato alliance remains strong. that poland will be collectively defended. atika shubert, cnn, poland. still ahead, the first major foreign policy test for donald trump once he is in office. coming up, his ad hin administration invited to the next round table of the syrian peace talks. plus, france is hosting a peace conference on the israeli palestinian conflict. why that meeting is so controversial. live around the world, you are watching cnn newsroom.
kazakhstan held three days after the donald trump is set to become the next president of the united states. let s bring in mohammed lia live in abu dhabi. what does it mean for the u.s. to be invited to the table for these talks? well, george, if the united states accept that is invitation, what it means they will have a seat at the table for the first time in months, if not years. this is going to be donald trump s first and major policy question mark. this is an issue with syria that many people would say was president obama s biggest failure that he oversaw the rise of iraq and syria and allowed al qaeda to take route in iraq and syria. the united states might have a role in trying to curtail some of that as well as help determine the future of bashar al assad. it is certainly a very big challenge and a big question
mark of the obama administration trump is going to have to deal with three days after being inaugurated. of course, the other thing to mention, george, is that when the u.s. is invited to these peace talks, you have to remember these peace talks have been led by turkey and russia for several weeks, if not months now. so there was a point in time where american foreign policy in the region dictated that america would be able to lead these negotiations. in this case, it seems as though russia and turkey have advanced quite far in what they are hoping to achieve in syria. if trump does take that offer and decides to have the united states at that negotiating table, will it be in the position of simply an observer or will they have a meaningful role? that s something we won t know until those talks take place. an observer or meaningful role. this is being led by turkey, russia. the u.s. just invited to the talks. it was not invited when it came to brokering the actual peace
deal. the question goes further. would the u.s. be at any sort of a disadvantage in even taking part in these talks? well, there is no question. you have to remember the major players are turkey, iran, and russia. they all have their own interests in syria. they all want to see some sort of settlements that gives each of those country what is they want. the big test for the united states moving forward in these peace talks is we ll have to see if the united states under the new trump administration is willing to play a bigger role in syria or whether they are planning to be more hands-off and essentially let turkey and russia dictate the terms of the see fire? the reason that is important, it will indicate something of president-elect donald trump s foreign policy. he is planning to fulfill his promise in terms of being more hands off and targeting only esis and leaving the other problems in the middle east of the country toss deal with themselves or will he be more interventionist and take a more
active role than president obama did. so far, the indications are that given the closeness of donald trump and the warming up certainly of donald trump and russia, the question is, will the united states try to intervene and limit russia s gains in syria, so to speak, as a result of these syrian peace talks. if donald trump s words and statements are any indication, it may be the case where he may step back and let russia play the main role in this which would effectively give russia even more control in syria in a cease-fire and peace deal would be assigned. whether they attend or the u.s. decides not to attend, it will be a very important statement for the trump s administration or the u.s. stance in the world thank you so much for your reporting. to another peace effort that is underway. this one happening right now in paris. some 70 countries are meeting to pressure israeli and palestinian
leaders to commit to a two-state solution. the racilies and palestinians they will not be attending that conference. the u.s. is represented but not by the incoming administration of donald trump. cnn s warren lieberman joins us live in jerusalem. the trump administration will not be there. israelis and palestinians will not be there. what, if anything, can truly come from this meeting. many other countries get together and talk about different ways to solve different solutions and deal with the most complex issues in the conflict. jerusalem borders refugees. this isn t the u.n. or the eu. many of those member countries are ripped. this is a conference on how to advance the peace process in some way. whatever comes out of this, it doesn t seem like it will have any practical, immediate effect. what worries the israelis is
what comes out could be brought to the u.n. security council for a follow-up resolution. that is the concern the israelis are looking at right now, not the conference itself but how it plugs into the bigger issue of what s happened the last few weeks, the u.n. security resolution, the kerry speech and now this. warren, the meeting will be underway. some 70 countries will be there. will it put pressure on the israelis and palestinians to reach a solution? that certainly is the intent to get the sides back to the negotiating table as much as the statements have been made back and forth and the finger pointing. the truth is there hasn t been a negotiation since april of 2014. the pressure has no consequence. if one or both sides ignore what comes out of the conference, there is no cons fence equence ignoring it.
my suspicion it will be very little. we will see statements from both sides. the israelis and palestinians aren t invited. this is supposed to be the rest of the world figuring out how to deal with the conflict and both sides wrere invited to a follow-on hand shake or symbolic sfoert of pea support of peace statement. we ll see what recommendations come out of this. it could be economic incentives to get back to negotiations. we ll see. the conference is supposed to last today. we will have statements afterwards to see what they came up with and see if there is a new idea of how to move forward. ice will be watching. palestinians and israelis will not be there. neither will the incoming trump administration. warren lieberman live in jerusalem. still ahead, not just donald trump s opponents who disagree with his policies.
how the u.s. president-elect might face opposition in his own cabinet. broadcasting in the united states and around the world. you are watching cnn newsroom.
happy about donald trump s suggestion that the united states could change its position on the one china policy once he is in the white house. a ministry spokesperson called the policy non-negotiable. also, donald trump firing back at john lewis after he said trump was not a legitimate president. trump responded by saying that the civil rights icon is all talk and no action. lewis is one of several that says he will boycott trump s inauguration come january 20th. john lewis is not the only one in washington not seeing eye to eye with donald trump. still some of trump s own cabinet picks seem to disagree with him on key issues. donald trump is facing a new round of opposition on capitol
hill. not in democrats but his own cabinet nominees. at one confirmation hearing after another, trump s team is contradicting the president-elect on some of his key campaign trail promises. on russia, trump taking a far softer tone on vladmir putin than his pick for defense secretary, retired general james mattis did. if putin elects donald trump, i consider that an asset, not a liability. i have modest expectations about areas of cooperation with mr. putin. on the intelligence probe into russian hack, can trump sounded less concerned than mike pompeo. it is pretty clear about what took place here, about russian involvement in efforts to hack information and to have an impact on american democracy. i am very clear-eyed about what that intelligence report says. at trump tower friday, the
president-elect down played the differences between his views and those of his perspective cabinet. i told them, be yourselves and say what you want to say. don t worry about me. i m going to do the right thing, whatever it is. i may be right. they may be right but i said, be yourselves. his rhetoric before the election and since is now colliding with governing. sending mixed signals to americans and allies about where the new trump administration stands. on the campaign trail, trump railed against nato while his defense secretary took a different view sxwrchlt th. nato is obsolete. it is over 60 years old. having served once as a nato sue pre supreme allied commander is the most successful military alliance in modern history. they spent time asking if they agreed on hot button issues
like torture? congress is taking an action now. it makes it absolutely improper and illegal to use waterboarding or any other form of torture. on one of his biggest pledges of all, building a wall on the border with mexico. we are going to build a great border wall. his pick to lead the department of homeland security, retired general john kelly disagreed. it has to be a layered defense. secretary of state no, ma minee tillerson conflicted the view on climate change saying he believes it exists and require a global response. donald trump says he wants members of the cabinet to have their own views but whose views, the cabinet or the president, become the policy of the new
administration. jeff zeleny cnn, washington donald trump says mexico will ultimately pay for a border wall with the united states. mexico says, that s not going to happen whachlt peop happen. what people are saying in mexico city. learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it s a hat, but it s like the most important hat i ve ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com.
prompt fear in security among the mexican people in this very vibrant city. the mexican pay so has plunged against the u.s. dollar and add to that the mexican government s decision to raise gas prices has sent thousands of protesters to the streets. others to the church. in mexico s holiest shrine where thousands go to pray, the hope is that a higher power is listening. concerns, worries, fears, can be left behind. ramon hernandez worries about the future, his family, the economy, when ford backed out of plans to build this new factory, his hometown lost potential jobs. the same administration that calls this a victory says mexico will eventually pay for a wall on the u.s. border. he tells me the idea sounds
crazy. he is not alone. president-elect is better off paying for a wall to be built around his own home. making mexicans pay for a wall on the border is just a threat. counsel general carlos garcia acknowledges his job as a top diplomat for the u.s. has changed. reporter: will plex co-pay for that wall? no way. the president of mexico, president pena nieto and the entire government of mexico again and again have said mexico won t pay for the wall. reporter: garcia calls the relationship between the two countries one of the most complex in the world. i respect the government of mexico. i respect the people of mexico. i love the people of mexico. . reporter: does that improve anything? it doesn t fix but it helps.
we need to change language. it is time now to start speaking with respect. p pedro adds, the respect must go both ways. even he and a lot of his fellow mexicans recognize this may take an intervention perhaps from the divine p. reporter: we talked to about 20 mexicans across this city, many echoing similar sentiments repeating the words humiliation, racism. saying, let s wait and see what happens. i couldn t nifind one person wh believed that mexico will ever pay for this wall. leila santiago, cnn, mexican city. thank you so much. now, to talk about cold weather that continues to plague many parts of european, let s bring in cnn s allison chinchar to talk more about that. with the cold, you often get
snow. up fortunately, some may think. specially ski resorts. they love to have snow. you can have too much of a good thing. take a look at this. this is from the down hill skiing world cup, canceled on saturday due to too much snow. they picked up about 40 centimeters of snow overnight friday night. crews just couldn t get to the cleanup process fast enough. winds around 70 kilometers hindering. as they would clean it up, the wind would blow it right back over into the same spots. they were forced to cabs that will event. we are expecting more snow on the way as we head into the next week. a surge of cold air that will be return tog unfortunately a lot of the same spots that got a look at the cold. up near the alps, we could be looking at an additional 40-60 centimeters on top of what they have already had. tuesday, incredibly high amounts in the pyrenees, as much as 100
centimeters of snow. the dreaded cold blast coming in. notice where the pink and purple colors are. that s where we are going to see the focus. prague, for example, the average high, 1 degree celsius. we won t get to that for the next seven days. we will be about 8-10 degrees below that average. on the other side of the atlantic, we are keeping a close eye on the ice storm. here is a look at some of the amounts of ice that have already accumulated. we are talking about almost 1.25 of a centimeters. around kansas, about a half centimeter. 1 in joplin, missouri. as high as those numbers are, we are actually expecting more ice accumulation on top of it. the purple areas right here could pick up an additional .5
to 1.5 p of ice. we are talking widespread power outages that could be affected with a lot of these regions. if you have travel plans, please check with your air travel carrier before you do so. stay in touch with you and our meteorologists as we continue to follow. thank you so much, allison. still ahead, the legacy of michelle obama. we look back at her years as america s first lady. stay with us. sometimes you justw when you hit a home run. that s how i feel about blue-emu pain relief spray. odorless and fast-acting. it soothes all my muscle aches and pains. and it s convenient for those hard to reach places. and if you re like me, you ll love blue-emu super strength cream. it s made with real emu oil, it s non greasy, it s a deep penetrating formula that works itself down into your joints. take it from me. it works fast and you won t stink.
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remember the family back then. barack is home at least once a week and we are really doing family stuff. reporter: on the campaign trail, young malia and sasha talk about the weirdness of seeing their parents in magazines. pretty cool. because you see people like angelina jolie. real important people, no offense. mommy is important. the beginning was not so easy. moving into the white house where the bullet proof windows can t be open, the secret service always there. she recently described that first day. i will never forget that winter morning as i watched our girls just 7 and 10 years old pile into those black suvs with all those big men with guns. i saw their little faces pressed up against the window and the only thing i could think was, what have we done? reporter: she did face criticism, even before the
election. for the first time in my adult lifetime, i am really proud of my country. soon after that, portrayed on this new yorker cover, today, how far she has come. on the cover of vogue three times. she has long since found her footing, her causes. by her husband s second term, she eernlg med much more comfortable in public, polished but loosening up in more ways than one? roses are red, violets are blue, you are the president, and i am your boo. the first lady seemed to not only accept the public eye and the constraints of the white house. there are prison elements to it. but it is a really nice prison. to embrace the opportunity to let her voice be heard including her fashion voice, taking some risks, competing with the best of them and making headlines. remember the bangs. we borrowed one of michelle s
tricks. p america has seen michelle obama, harvard educated lawyer and mother, use her humor, hr star power, even her viral mean power occasionally shedding light on what it is like to raise now teenagers in these circumstances. we have one who generally stays here and then we have one we call our grumpy cat. our salty business kit. as her time in office drew down, the once reluctant, now determined first lady drew upon her sweeping popularity to enter the campaign trail as one of the most powerful voices for her party, earning her nickname, the closer. i wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves. and i watch my daughters, two beautiful, intelligent, black young women, playing with their dogs on the white house lawn.
she took on donald trump s access hollywood tapes. it has shaken me to my core in a way i couldn t have predicted. it is cruel. it is frightening. the truth is, it hurts. reporter: speaking her mind even after the election. we are feeling what not having hope feels like. in her final speech as first lady, her emotion raw. she urged americans not to give up you, to celebrate diversity and talent. thank you for everything you do for our kids and our country. being your first lady has been the greatest honor of my life. i hope i have made you proud. does this mean the first lady has embraced the public eye and loves hanging out with the press. she doesn t do interviews very often. her staff is extremely
protective of her and selective about what she does and when. post white house, we expect first there will be a vacation. the first couple has mentioned many times is badly needed. they will settle into their rented house in d.c. where they will stay for a couple of years until sasha finishes high school. we expect the first lady to keep working on issues she believes in although she has insisted many times now that she will not run for public office. michelle kosinski, cnn, the white house. thanks so much for reporting. now, to a follow-up story we have been reporting an p the young woman kidnapped as an instant and only recently found 18 years later. she ways taken from a florida hospital by someone posing as a nurse. she was taken when she was only a few hours old. she met with her birth parents for the first time on saturday. that is her father, this person you see here. he says that the meeting went
well and that he told his daughter he loved her. first meeting was beautiful, wonderful. it couldn t have went no better. what is the first thing she said to you? are you planning to bring her to here? we are taking it one step at a time. that reunion came after an emotional meeting the previous day when mobley visited gloria williams, williams is in jail. williams is awaiting a hearing on kidnapping charges. say it ain t so. the american circus known as the greatest show on earth is shutting down fr good. the parent company of ringling brothers barn number aum and ba says it is closing the 100-year extravaganza. the last show will happen in may. they dropped elephants as featured performers last year
and business suffered. the ceo explained the decisions and says the tickets have been declining but following the transitions of the elephants. we saw a more dramatic drop. this coupled with high operating costs made the circus an unsustainable business for the company. a successful launch and return for a spacex falcon 9 rocket on saturday. four, three, two, one. liftoff. falcon 9. always so cool to see that. it blasted off from a us air force base in california carrying ten communications satellites. this was the first launch for the private space company since a similar rocket exploded in september. it was followed by a smooth return landing for the rocket s first stage booster and then collided on to an ocean platform known as the drone ship. spacex and its rivals have been trying to perfect the landing,
because reusing the rocket is the key to making space travel more affordable. from outer space now to your inner peace, this newly discovered buddha statue has been sitting undisturbed in a southeastern china reservoir for hundreds of years. archaeologists say it dates back to china s ming dynasty. the top of the buddha s head appeared when the water level dropped. remnants of a temple have also been found below the water. that wraps this hour of cnn newsroom. i m george howell at the cnn news center in atlanta. i ll be back after the break with more news from around the world. thank you for watching cnn, the world s news leader. if you have medicare
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heading into the end, though, donald trump, look at this, the foundation of trump support, white voters without a college degree, a whopping 30-point lead on that question. one of the arenreasons this is a total blowout nationally. we didn t just ask voters who they re voting for, we asked them why. a five-point national lead, not a total blowout. one of the reasons it s not bigger than that, who would best handle the economy? donald trump wins on that. the other big issues, hillary clinton a little bit on terrorism, a bit on immigration. what has her campaign been about, saying he s erratic, unfit, temperamentally not fit to be president of the united states. the voters agree, nearly 30 points she wince on the question of which candidate has the best temperament to be president, also wins by 15 points when voters are asked which of these two do you trust to be commander in chief? she s winning on the qualification for the job, if you will, even though she trails on the economy. the biggest question of all, anderson, anything in the new national numbers to change this? cnn electoral map shows hillary
clinton with a lopsided add vanta vantage. there s some reasons to say donald trump s republican support is coming back, maybe that will help him in the west where he s struggling. there s also good reasons for secretary clinton. she leads when we asked voters in the midwest, when asked who they d pick for president. look at the national numbers and this map, a tighter race than some organizations have it in their polling. still advantage clinton. when you go state by state, lopsided advantage clinton. donald trump as we said finished a big rally. his very first words at it after thanking supporters was to point to a different poll showing him in the lead. we should say the survey from investors business daily does not meet our standards for transparency. cnn s jim acosta joins us now. thump spending a lot of time in florida obviously this week. he definitely needs to win there. what s the latest tonight? reporter: that s right, anderson. donald trump just wrapped up his remarks here at tampa right around us at this moment we want
kellyanne conway, his campaign manager, said on meet the press yesterday, we are running behind, but then earlier today, anderson, on cnn, jason miller, the senior communications adviser, said oh, no, no, kellyanne conway was talks about fund-raising but anderson, if you go back to the transcript from meet the press she was asked about how they re doing in the polls and she acknowledged as is the case right now that day are running behind. i have to point out right now, anderson we ve been seeing this at on a routine basis at the donald trump rallies, he s been ramping up the rhetoric against the news media, we re seeing hostility against us, the media covering his campaign. a man right now holding a sign that says trump sucks. earlier tonight, a woman jabbed me with her trump for president sign. i kaecan t imagine another coup weeks of this. it s getting intense. hillary clinton who s putting a good deal of her campaign emergency into
down-ticket races, some worry is overconfidence. she s extending her coattails to senate candidates, trying to take advantage of the one senator who s been known to get under donald trump s skin. more on that from brianna kei r keilar. reporter: hillary clinton making a campaign swing through new hampshire. we are more than our disagreements, we americans. there is so much more that unites us than divides us. reporter: and she s got help from liberal darling elizabeth warren, senator from neighboring massachusetts who took aim from donald trump for this remark at the last debate. such a nasty woman. he thinks because he has a mouth full of tic tacs he can force himself on any woman within groping distance. i got news for you, donald trump. women have had it with guys like you. nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart. and nasty women vote.
reporter: but for many americans, election day has come and gone. according to an analysis from catalyst by cnn, 5.1 million votes have already been cast across the u.s. as clinton and her campaign are feeling confident about her path to the white house, she s focusing more on helping democrats take back the senate. campaigning here in the granite state with governor maggie hassan who s leading in the polls as she looks to unseat incumbent republican kelly ayotte. unlike her opponent, she has never been afraid to stand up to donald trump. she knows he shouldn t be a role model for our kids or for anybody else, for that matter. reporter: it s a familiar refrain clinton is using. over the weekend in north carolina, she rallied voters for deborah ross as she tries to take on senator richard burr. unlike her opponent, deborah has never been afraid to stand up to donald trump.
because she knows he s wrong for north carolina. reporter: clinton is steadily moving her focus beyond donald trump. upping her planning for what she believes will be her transition to the presidency, a source close to clinton tells cnn. but clinton denies she s getting ahead of herself. you know, i m a little superstitious about that. we ve got a transition operation going and i haven t really paid much attention to it yet because i want to focus on what our first task is and that is convincing as many americans as possible to give us the chance to serve. brianna joins us now. what are you hearing from the clinton campaign? how confident is she going to the final two weeks of the campaign? reporter: you know, they re saying that every vote matters, of course, but there s a lot of confidence that we re hearing from the clinton campaign. they need to be careful they don t count their chickens before they hatch, specifically we re talks about people in the middle of the political spectrum who don t want to vote for donald trump and don t really want to vote for hillary clinton. they could become complacent if they think they don t have to
vote for hillary clinton in order to vote against donald trump. but it s just so clear the confidence as she is heading out to help all of these down-ballot democrats. that s what really tells you where they re at. brianna, this new report that came out today saying obamacare premiums will be going up an average of 22% next year. that s going to make things difficult for clinton considering how closely she s tied her campaign to its supposed success. reporter: that s right. politically this is not good for hillary clinton or for president obama, but here s the bottom line as we see it. i think it s important for people to understand, 22% increase in the next year in premiums on through obamacare. these are the plans bought on the exchange. it was 7% last year. so that is a jump. now most people because they get subsidies on the exchange actually aren t going to feel that increase, but still, this is a sizable, the overall cost of the program is big. it s getting bigger an td the b issue is choice. there s a number of states going into next year where people may go on the exchange to get a plan
and only going to have one insurance company to choose from. our panel, jonathan tasini, christine quinn. patrick healy is sheer. trump supporters jeffrey lord and scottie nell hughes. donald trump says he s going to win. they see a path. do you see what he s saying? he s in trouble and they know it. they are basing a lot of these assumptions on arizona being a solid trump state. nevada coming through. perhaps new hampshire coming through. certainly ohio and florida coming through. and talking to people inside the trump campaign, they acknowledge that they need that economy argument to really cut their way in the last two weeks. that seems to bt only thing in which he s leading. the only thing he s leading and, you know, in trump s favor here, 9 the1% of people in the cnn poll say the economy is still very important or important to them. he has an argument to make there.
he could dtie in the obamacare premium. you have donald trump coming out today saying the latest accuser against him of unrawanted advans is a porn star and bad mouthing her. the last two weeks donald trump needs to be focusing on that economic argument. it s the best one for him, but as we ve seen for the last year and a half, his ability to get in his own way is still there. jeffrey, even this weekend, gettysburg address which was supposed to outline his first 111 1 supposed to outline his first 111 1 p 100 days he spent a fair amount of time talking about suing these women accusers. right. i think what he s tryinging to do is die all this together, all of this gets back to a culture of corruption, if you will. there s an ad i found very interesting. i think 15 days out, if we learned nothing else, the last year and a half, things can change on a dime. there s a television ad by a group called america s worth it. it never mentions donald trump. what it does is attack hillary clinton as the queen of
corruption and ties her to their words, not mine, liberal media bosses. that is part in parcel of the trump attack, and so at a major policy address that you said this is going to be my 100 days, the big-ticket item initially to be i m going to sue all these women i understand. there s two ways of looking at this, anderson. i confess, that was my first reaction. the second reaction once you get a couple lines. three or four. all right. once you tie this all in, it s all it s all tied together. today in pennsylvania wait, wait let him finish. today in pennsylvania, the former democratic attorney general of pennsylvania was sentenced to jail for corruption. now, i m just saying that this kind of thing makes a difference and that s what he s trying to point out. so he s trying to wrap it up in a culture of corruption but if you listen to what anderson said, he raised how he stepped on his message by continuing to
bring up he s going to sue the women and now attacking the most recent accuser in an incredibly insensitive way by saying something to the effect of this isn t the first time she s been gro groped. he said, oh, i m sure she s been grabbed before. the people that s appealing to the most are the people who are harassing jim acosta, diehard trump supporters who hear this and believe that sort of larger, you know, narrative right. with the news media. but that s not getting whatever undecided voters are left or the soft clinton supporters. these are his acts. this is not a conspiracy by the clinton campaign. these are women who are accusing him of doing something. let me ask you about the obamacare premiums going up 22 pk. i mean, that had that happened during the primary, that would have been something that bernie sanders would have jumped all over. how bad is this for hillary clinton? well, bernie sanders and in progressives still believe that the only way to solve this is to have a single payer medicare for all system.
i will point out secretary clinton has started talking about the public option as an alternative, frankly, what she needs to move to. there s no question that the obamacare the rising premiums are going to hurt people but i think that for donald trump to make the argument and republicans to make the argument they re the solution, they want to throw all the people covered by obamacare off obamacare so they won t have coverage and would not preserve the pre-existing condition trump claims he would preserve it but how much do you wish he hasn t shown how. how much do you wish this happened months ago, this announcement was made? thank you for being honest. someone admitting the goal of obama compacare to put us on a payer system. i m saying the opposite. that s what the whole goal is. may i finish now? 17 of the 23 exchanges are now out of business, gone bottom up. this is not impacting those in urban areas. this is impacting those people in the rural areas.
you ve got in alabama right now 71% of increases of most people on insurances, oklahoma city is going to have the same kind of rural areas of arizona, 116%, they re going to see their premiums i just want to clarify something, though. that s the issues that are impacting america. you can talk about these other women. jonathan? obamacare was a institute for inaction on the part of republicans, period. republicans did not want to change the current system which basically cost people their lives and left millions of people not covered. that s not true. it is absolutely fact. no, it is not. it is absolutely the fact. the second thing, what obamacare tried to do is begin to go along the path, no question about it, to single payer. i m not embarrassed by it. you should be. we should have medicare in the country, if we don t have medicare for all system we have to take a quick break. we re going to pick this up in a moment. later as we ve been discussing i ll ask the republican party s top spokesman how donald trump squares his polling problems with women with his continued
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more than just the polls. our system is rigged. our system is rigged. she never had a chance of being convicted, even though everybody in this audience, and boy do we have a lot of people, everybody here knows that she s 100% guilty. that was donald trump just moments ago. back with our panel. i want to bring up the story from the wall street journal because a lot of republicans are pointing to it, ties a contribution from a pac of a close clinton ally, virginia governor terry mcauliffe, to the wife of the guy at the fbi who ended up being in charge of the investigation into the clinton e-mail server. basically implying there was a quid pro quo. right. how damaging do you think that is? because it certainly fits into the narrative you guys want of exactly. that this is that s exactly the point. anderson, we look at these polls, let me just talk to pennsylvania for a second. depending on the poll he s behind by five, six, seven,
eight, nine points, et cetera. i know you hate when i do anecdotes. go. on saturday when i had the day off, i took good old mom, put her in the car, got the halloween pumpkin 20 miles out in the countryside. there were trump signs everywhere. i saw ones, one hillary sign. now, anecdotal, but i m trying to understand the polling data as, in relation to the what you re seeing out there. what i m seeing on the ground. the last time i saw that much effort for one candidate was 2008, they were all obama sides. christine, this terry mcauliffe story, this guy was not in charge of the investigation when the donation was made to his wife. he was later, i guess, elevated. right. how serious do you think this is? look, terry mcauliffe is an intelligent guy. there s no way around that. he doesn t have some kind of esp where he can figure out he s a very close friend of the clintons. he gave a donation in relevance to where somebody was. i m not saying he couldn t be so
intelligent to see into the future to know where this gentle ma amm man was going to go. he was there. the gentleman was in one place and another job. he couldn t have possibly known. look, i don t disregard signs. they re a sign of enthusiasm. anecdote, i was in a restaurant today, a man came up to me and said i don t want to interrupt your lunch, his eyes welled up with tears, he said i wasn t sure what i was going to vote for, now as it s gone on and on, think about my daughters. like dueling banjo. mine has a person, he just has signs. he didn t have any tears pumpkins, though. all right. all right. two guys walked into a bar. one of them but it is interesting, these polls, i mean, the trump people continue to say, look, these polls are just flat-out wrong. right. and, look, we re going to know in two week. the problem is something like pay for play can have real damage, it can do real damage.
you have to start laying the groundwork for a pay to play argument months in advance in order for it to break through and people to understand it. donald trump, i remember when we talked last spring when he was trying to figure out what adjective to put onto hillary clinton s name, he was going for sort of low energy hillary. highbrow he went for crooked hillary, but the thing is that pay for play, it s a complicated, you know, multilayered argument that just in the last two weeks, it s really very hard to this is another chapter in the book of corruption, the clinton corruption chronicles. doesn t donald trump continue to step on his message every step of the way? i mean seems like he cannot it seems like any other candidate would have been able to make a more coherent argument over, to patrick s point, over months and months and months without having, you know, the headline this weekend being i m going to sue these women when i get into office. but i think he has. i mean, let s look at it. we had saudi arabia arms deal, we had it was a 39-minute speech
about 15 minutes no, actually i think it came out und out, two minutes were focused on women who were going to sue him. ten minutes was background overall. of the past. dealing with the scandal and media bias was ten minutes. he lumped it all together to jeffrey s point. it was everything other than issues about his first 100 days. i think it goes back to the idea, what is the media focusing on, what are they focusing on? what are the stories they re making their headlines be out of? they re not talking about the fact he wants to rid the swamp, he wants to put in term limits. by the way he s not talking about it the majority of it focusing on one line. the moment that i will never forget in this campaign, many moments, was interviewing donald trump in his office the day after fbi director comey s report came out on the e-mail scandal in july and saying to donald trump, this is a gift, you know, you re going to be talking about this for the next, you know, weeks and weeks and weeks. he said i can talk about it for about five minutes at the rally then everybody gets bored and got to go back to the wall and
got to go to the polls. it was sort of like a that moment crystalized him, you know, for me. he s a showman. he s a performer. he needs, you know, there s a plus. the idea of prosecuting an argument for three months, four months, the e-mail was perfectly served up, you know, as a weapon for him. and july, it just sort of faded and august he had three opportunities at the debates. to your word you used, anderson, coherence, if you actually go and read the transcripts which geeks like me do, he s not able to make a coherent argument about any policy issue. i remember corey lewandowski before the last debate talking about draining the swamp, statement, taken fire among his supporters and what he d be talks about at ttal talking about at the debate. he used gettysburg, though. he started that, what, more than a week ago, he could have been i think you re going to the teleprompter let s go back to 2008 and
barack obama. talk about one at a time. the great entertainer in chief. i mean, i will give barack obama this, in 2008, he was the best campaigner, you know, bill clinton was good, barack obama was even better. and he was allowed to get people engaged. he got people to the polls. he got people inspired. and it wasn t because of talking policy. i think mr. trump might have watched him. might have watched people like bill clinton. it s all about engagement. people showing up to the polls. obama we know barack obama and bill clinton and donald trump is neither of them. he s not that s a good thing. no, he s not he s got the energy. he s not able to engage voters. we have to pause it there. crunchtime on the campaign trail for both. i ll talk to rnc chief strategist sean splicer about the headwinds trump is facing.
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i talked to sean spicer for the rnc just before we went to air. sean, you ve seen the results of the new cnn poll. trump trails by five points. he said today at a rally he thinks he s winning. do you believe he s winning? i think when you look at the battleground states whether it s florida, iowa, ohio, where it matters, we re winning. we have a path to 270 that s going to put him in the white house come november 8th. again, i think the other thing, anderson, you look at states where we can start to see evidence of that. florida we re up over the democrats in the early votes. not just the absentee ballots requested, then returned. same thing in iowa. and in places, excuse me, like iowa and north carolina in iowa, excuse me, in places like iowa and ohio where traditionally we don t do as well as early votes, you see actually a consolidation of where we ve been in the past. it s a much closer race for us. we do so well there on election day. but, i mean, you know, we just had john king explain the electoral map.
even if trump wins all the states that cnn currently has as tossups, he still comes up short of 270. so i mean, you re looking you say you re looking at early right, no. if you take florida, ohio, nevada, iowa, north carolina, and then add in new hampshire and maine, too, areas we re doing well in, that gets us over the 270 mark. i think new hampshire, though, i think even maine in real clear politics, a poll of polls, shows clinton in the lead. and also in florida. again, some of these places, there s not one of those states that s not in the margin of error. we feel good about our data, where we are, and voter targeting. the early vote, ann absentee vote requests and our ground game. i get with all due respect to the polls i know where we are data wise. we feel very good. this morning trump tweeted major story the dems are making up phony polls in order to suppress the trump. we re going it to win. do you can you point to which polls and which democrats he s referring to?
abc showing a 12-point race. that s by far an outlier. the demographics that make up that s not necessarily a phony the phony polls are online polls donald trump always seems to be referencing. even the rasmussen poll isn t something we would use. okay, again, you get to make that decision. i think when you look at the ma rasmussen poll and ibd poll, the ibd poll was the most accurate poll going back a couple cycles. i get you might not like it but it s been one of the most accurate polls going forward. for clarificatioclarificatio use it because they don t reveal their methodology and the rasmussen poll uses a combination of online polling and telephone polling. right. i understand that, but i m not saying that you have to accept it, but it doesn t make it phony. just today donald trump said in response to an adult film actress who says he grabbed and
kissed her, offered her money to go to his hotel room. oh, i m sure she s never been grabbed before. i really don t. the idea today we saw terry mcauliffe, one of clinton s strongest allies allegedly not allegedly, helped steer $500,000 in campaign contributions to the wife of the person who ran the fbi investigation of hillary clin n clinton. i m somewhat shocked they re not getting the level of attenti attention he did give the money before the guy was assigned to that case. he was the number three at the fbi at the time. yes, he became number two but the idea that that doesn t seem like a huge impropriety is a little the idea that people are sort of helping to make the excuses for. it s hillary clinton that should have to answer for that. it s terry mcauliffe. the media shouldn t be sort of making excuses for when certain things happen. they should be asking the tough questions as they do every day of the trump campaign. all right. sean spicer, good to talk to you
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as we reported during a speech in pennsylvania over the weekend, donald trump went off script and spent a good amount of time attacking women who ve accused him of sexual assault threatening once again to take them to court. every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. total fabrication. the events never happened. never. all of these liars will be sued after the election is over. it was probably the dnc and the clinton campaign that put forward these liars with their fabricated stories, but we ll find out about their involvement at a later date through litigation. and i look so forward to doing
it. well, trump is also threatening or there were reports he was going to sue the new york times over its reporting on sexual assault allegations he s facing. none of this is actually surprising giving trump s long history of threatening to sue people who say things about him he doesn t like. usa today wrote a strong piece about his propensity to sue. the presidential candidate threatened a rapper, documentary filmmakers, palm beach civic clucks newsletter and better business bureau for lowering its rating of trump university. vowed to sue multiple news organizations including the new york times, wall street journal, washington post, usa today, didn t follow through with any of those. randi kaye tonight reports. no papers more corrupt than the failing new york times. good news it is failing, it won t be around too much longer, but they are really, really bad people. reporter: donald trump tearing into the new york times for its reporting on women accusing trump of touching them inappropriately.
trump s team called the article reckless and defamatory and demanded a retraction and an apology. failure to comply, trump s lawyer warned, would leave trump no choice but to pursue all available actions and remedies. the candidate has made it sound like a lawsuit is imminent. it will be part of the lawsuit we are preparing against them. reporter: if trump s lawyers do sue the new york times, don t expect the paper to request the lawsuit be dismissed. it may be exactly what t the ne york times wants. in response to trump s lawyer, an attorney for the times shot back, if mr. trump disagrees w wing the opportunity to have a court set him straight. read between the lines and the new york times seems to be saying, bring it on. donald trump in a court of law under oath answering all kinds of embarrassing questions about his sex life and his behavior with women. it s a process called discovery and in the end could provide a treasure-trove of stories. that is if trump tells the
truth. the washington post found when trump was deposed back in 2007 for a lawsuit he filed against a new york times reporter, trump lied as many as 30 times. if a lawsuit is filed in this latest case involving his accusers, legal experts say it wouldn t just be donald trump facing questions. ivanka, the rest of his children and maybe even his ex-wives could be deposed. not to mention, the growing list of women who now say trump kissed them or put his hand up their skirt without consent. the republican nominee continues to suggest he s been a victim of libel. what s still unclear is if trump realizes how much a lawsuit could expose about his business and personal life. these false attacks are absolutely hurtful. to be lied about, to be slandered, to be smeared so publicly, and before your family that you love is very painful. reporter: painful, but with a lawsuit, the burden would be on
donald trump to prove all the claims against him are false. randi kaye, cnn, florida. lot to discuss. joining me now, senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin. trump s claim that he s going to sue the women who have made accusations against him, that he s going to sue all of them, how hard is a case like that? it s very hard in the united states for any sort of public figure to win a libel or defamation case because he d have to show one of two things. he d have to show what s called he d have to show either that the person who made the accusation or the newspaper knew it was false when they made it, or showed reckless disregard for whether it was true. now, reckless disregard means you made no effort to check it out and certainly when it comes to the the new york times, they obviously made a greet deal of effort to check out every story they wrote about trump, so it really does seem literally impossible for him to win a lawsuit against the new york times. it is, perhaps, somewhat more
possible against these women, but as randi pointed out in her story, if she were to bring such a lawsuit, his whole personal life would be open in discovery process. so in discovery. that means the times or these women s attorneys could essentially depose him about his entire history. his entire sexual history, everything. and, of course, the access hollywood tape would come in where he admitted making unwanted sexual advances. virtually sexual assaults on women which would be argued on the part of these defendants was proof that he had a propensity for doing this which would certainly help their case. over the weekend also, trump made the argument that essentially the press in the united states can say whatever they want and that he want, you know, libel and slander laws to look more like they do in the united kingdom where it s easier for people to get convictions. it is. it s different in several important ways. the most important way is that
in the united states, the plaintiff has the burden of showing that the story is false. in great britain, the publisher, the news organization, has the burden of showing that it s true. also what s different is that the loser pays the winner s attorneys fees. so it really raises the stakes for both sides. here, everybody pays their own attorney fees regardless of what happens, but the press is in a much more vulnerable position in great britain. is it just that the story is false or there has to be malice involved in the u.s.? in the u.s., no, i mean, they don t actual malice is a somewhat misleading term. it doesn t mean, like, hate. okay. it does mean a kind of recklessness. a reckless disregard. they didn t research it, they didn t look they didn t try. they didn t make any effort to check it out. usually what satisfies the actual malice standard is if you go to the subject of the story and say, is this true, will you respond to the allegations? clearly, the new york times
did this. all the newspapers and news organizations that have written about trump have gone to him for comment and that, alone, basically eliminates the possibility that trump could ever win one of these cases. any reporter can show the steps they went to to try to verify a story. whether or not there was actual verification, at least having made the effort is enough. this is one of the key differences between the united states and great britain. in great britain, that s not good enough to show you made a good faith effort to check it out. you can still lose a libel case in great britain. in united states if you the reporter show the steps you went through, show you made an effort to get comment, to check it out, you win. i see. and the other point he said several times is that he wants to change libel law in the united states. right. that s something the supreme court has done. starting in the 1964 case, the new york times against sullivan. i mean, these are laws that are set by the courts. not by the president. so barack obama, hillary clinton, donald trump, nobody
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well, you ve been watching this election closely, you ve seen her on tv plenty of times. kellyanne conway is a pundit. you ve heard about trump s refusal to release his taxes, and how in her words, at the time, built his business on the backs of the little guys. now he defend him on a daily basis, even when the going gets very, very tough. our chief political correspondent, dana bash, spent time with kellyanne conway at her home. take a look. reporter: morning at the conways. sweetheart, how s this? and which jacket? reporter: scrambling to get the kids ready for school. familiar chaos for any parent, though kellyanne conway is not any parent. kellyanne conway bluntly acknowledging the uphill climb. reporter: the mother of four young children is donald trump s campaign manager. on tv so much, explaining and defending her boss, saturday night live dedicated an entire bit to imagining her day off.
this is so weird. this is exactly the way the snl house looked. where s walking on sunshine ? in my head. the pancakes are true to life. reporter: these days her mother, who moved in to help, makes the pancakes. conway s only been on the job since august. trump s third campaign manager, but the first woman ever to run a gop presidential race. i wasn t hired because of my gender, but it s a special responsibility. reporter: and often a difficult one. like this weekend, when trump went offscript, attacking the women who say he groped them. all of these liars will be sued after the election is over. do you just tear your hair out when you hear him say that? it s his campaign and candidacy and he has to feel comfortable with his voice. you re the campaign manager. do you feel comfortable with him saying that? i think trump is at his best when he talks about the issues.
reporter: translation, going off-message hurts his campaign. conway insists she s tough on him in private. i don t sugar coat it at all. give me an example miami donald trump and you re kellyanne conway and i say something that really makes you mad i told him yesterday, on the plane, you and i are going to fight for the next 17 days. and he said, why? and i said, because i know you re going to win. and that comment you just made sounds like you think you re going to lose. and we re going to argue about it until you win. and what s his response? he said, okay, honey, then we ll win. reporter: for a time after conway took over, trump was disciplined, but not anymore. especially on twitter. literally, people will seriously say, can t you delete his twitter app? that was actually one of my questions. of course. it s not for me to take away a grown man s twitter account. and i moved on her very heavily. reporter: when tape from 2005 came out of trump describing lewd behavior, conway canceled sunday tv appearances, but still helped with damage control. i felt like rapunzel in the
tower all weekend. and i told mr. trump in private what i ve also said in public or a variation thereof. i found the comments to be horrible and indefensible. and he didn t ask anybody to defend them, by the way. did you consider quitting? i did not. reporter: she said she thought his apology was earnest. the women who have now come forward and said, it s not just talk. donald trump groped me. do you believe them? i believe donald trump has told me and his family and the rest of america now that none of this is true, these are lies and fabrications. they re all made up. and i think that it s not for me to judge what those women believe. i have not talked to them. i ve talked to him. reporter: she was raised in new jersey by a single mom, aunts, and grandmother, all women, as a political pollster, she chose to work in what she calls a man s world, especially as a republican. she recalled a potential client, a man, asking how she d balance kids and work. it was just like, i hope you
ask all the male consultants, are you going to give up your wicked golf game and your mistresses, because they seem really, really busy, too. reporter: still, like most working moms, time with her kids is precious. the question is whether she ll have more time in two weeks, after election day. when she was hired the august, she told trump he was losing, but still could win. do you think at this point, it is still possible to win? it is still possible to win. probable? i think that we have got a very good chance of winning. and dana bash joins me now. what a lot of peel say about kellyanne conway, is that she is an expert on speaking to women voters and that s always been sort of her calling card. it s got to be a i don t know what the adjective would be, but it s an interesting position she now finds herself in. frustration, and i think maybe the ultimate irony that she is a pollster, but she has sort of found a niche in not just working for political
operatives or political campaigns and candidates, but for corporate america, explaining, using her experience and in data, explaining how to reach women, that she is working for a candidate, who has such a deficit with women. i asked her that question. and her answer was, well, in this stage of the game, it s too late. and i said, you mean, you should have been hired earlier? and she said, no, no, i don t mean that. but when she goes in and talks to clients, not donald trump, and corporate leaders who are not donald trump, she says she has like sort of a long-term explanation for how to talk to women. and that s certainly not a playbook she can follow when she s the donald trump s campaign manager. fascinating. i can t believe the staircase is the exact same in that saturday night live skit. i said to her, did they come in her and scout that out? and she said no. and i like her kids like hamilton. coming up, donald trump, as you ve seen, said he s going to sue the women who came forward and said he allegedly groped them.
we ll talk to someone who knows what it s like to be sued by donald trump, a former miss usa pageant who said the pageant was rigged and was sued for $10 million. she lost her lawsuit donald trump won the lawsuit against her. i speak with her in the next hour of 360. oh no, that looks gross whoa, twhat is that? try it. you gotta try it, it s terrible. i don t wanna try it if it s terrible. it s like mango chutney and burnt hair. no thank you, i have a very sensitive palate. just try it! guys, i think we should hurry up.
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