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Keys to the economy, and is that going to be the key to the battle for blacks and latino votes? >> exactly. education and the jobs, jobs and the economy top the list for these voters, and so anybody wishing to be our next president, whether it's obama, mitt, or newt, they're going to have to pay attention to jobs and making sure that black and latinos given their high unemployment rates, feel that they've done enough. >> this was also really interesting. head-to-head match-up between the president and mitt romney, the president leads by more than 70%. look at those numbers. and i guess the ans...

And the president would have to say these are risks we have to take because the alternative isn't working. it's very hard to imagine a president telling the public that. >> we're not going to know for sure the answer to those questions two, three, four, five years from now, so long as the taliban enjoy a sanctuary in pakistan, so long as the taliban continue to be the taliban. the challenge of making enduring improvements in afghanistan i actually think is a bridge too far. and again, i'm not talking about withdrawal. essentially, we would be doing things in afghanistan not that different than...

We don't know what the consequences of the civil war would be for the region. and we don't know, above all, whether al qaeda and the taliban networks within which in the mountains of pakistan, at least, they are deeply intertwined, whether they would then have again a pretty large safe haven. we don't know. and the president would have to say these are risks we have to take because the alternative isn't working. it's very hard to imagine a president telling the public that. >> we're not going to know for sure the answer to those questions two, three, four, five years from now, so long as the t...