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So would you agree that citizenship alone is not a reliable indicator of a terrorist threat posed by an individual to the united states? >> correct. most of the people i talk to you -- we have open cases o citizen. >> thank you. the department of homeland security, we have heard from them. they have an assessment in the office of intelligence and analysis that concluded that citizenship is unlikely to be a reliable indicator of potential terrorist activity. do you agree with that? >> yes. >> another matter that chairman grassley and i have worked to address the concerns related to the fbi's an...

The court uses a four-prong test. so what the court evaluates is whether or not the information and testimony would be relevant. and then they evaluate whether or not that information is necessary. so with what the experts have to say, would it help a trier of fact come to a conclusion. and then also, are there exclusionary rulings in regard to the expert, and then the expert's qualifications, so tht1 the moving party has to lay the foundation and the qualifications as to whether or not this expert and what their opinion is going to be would be relevant to this case, and so that's the argument...