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Him. and it may be that the intelligence community doesn't have the totality of the disinformation. what i thought was interesting in bill neely's interview with the russian spokesman is this sense that they have that they can't wait for barack obama to leave and they can't wait for mr. trump to come in. and yet when you heard the testimony yesterday from tillerson and others you began the hear more of a separation from the trump line about -- >> the campaign. >> about the nature russia has. >> vladimir putin certainly front and center at all of these confirmation hearings. joining us now from...

Friends in the intelligence community. i have heard about it from friend in the diplomatic corps and elsewhere. we don't know how many of them willy. but there is something i think the trump administration is going to discover, which is that at that intelligence community doesn't live off in some completely separated world the way you might imagine from the movies. they are integrated with the policy community here, the journalistic community here, and others. and if the president den grates their work publicly they are going to have a very human reaction. and we saw moments during the bush ad...

Intelligence agents gotten anything? >> he said i've never seen a file. >> i said with respect, sir, that is not a denial? >> and he said i don't work for the intelligence services. so make what ulf that exchange. apart from that, they are counting down the days to the end of the obama administration. he again blamed president obama for souring relations, damaging relation. that's a very serious mistake, he said. and blamed obama for narrowing donald trump's room for maneuver. they are counting down the days. and as i asked him, finishing, when do you expect the first talks will be between don...

The united states has to take action, which are in our best interests and that of our allies and to show that yes we will increase our capability in the baltic states, yes, we will continue to confront russia when it serves our interests and that of our allies. so i think yes president-elect trump is correct, let's have a good relationship with russia but not on president putin's terms, let's do it on good order and rules that have been established and not to be divided. >> bill kohn thank you for joining us from capitol hill. thanks to david sanger and julie pace and chris alyssa. that does i...

Is such an important piece of. i just interviewed the vice president while you were on championship and he said he hopes donald trump once he sits hyped that desk in the oval office will have a different view about the intelligence community and about vladimir putin. >> andrea, i think the cloud of doubt is going to hangover the president-elect as long as information about his interests, his ownership interests, that means his assets, his liabilities, to whom he owes money -- there will always be a cloud unless the american people are satisfied that russia does not have undue influence on the ...