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They're faced with the punishing sanctions that the u.s. has promised. and russia is very aware of that. one thing that the kremlin has said is a red line is if ukraine is allowed to join nato, now nato has said that it continues to have this open door policy, and has said that it's in a position to invite to membership whoever it wish, and russia has said that's a red line, if ukraine is allowed to join this alliance. >> and that is a subject for a very long discussion, which hopefully we'll be able to have, thanks for being up for us tonight, ann simmen, the mouse cow bureau chief for "the w...

He never mentions his name. but certainly the question came up, do you fear mr. navalny? mr. putin has kind of skirted answering that question. but in the past, he's definitely said, of course i do not. >> ann simmen, "the wall street journal" moscow bureau chief, it has been a full 24-hour day for you today already at minimum. thank you for staying up with us so late, and thank you for your time. >> thank you so much. >> we've got more ahead tonight. stay with us. stay with us down? itgn that your digestive system isn't working at it's best taking metamucil everyday can help. metamucil psylli...