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Council. april ryan and patrick healy. politics editor for the new york times. john, if i could begin with you as the lawyer in the room. any laws broken here? >> we don't have a law in this country where you get punished for speaking ill of the king. we don't have a law against anonymous speech. i can't imagine what they think this is a violation of. also, the department of justice has regulations that prohibit this kind of inquiry. is it a serious push from the white house to the justice department to consider charges against this person. or is the white house just trying to change the subje...

Dmors and attempting to intimidate us. >> isn't it important to know who's spending the money? >> i would love to be judged on the merits of our arguments for these various nominees. and you're certainly welcome to analyze those efforts. i think we are very proud to defend our first amendment free speech rights, our own, our donors' own and the supreme court has spoken repeatedly about the long tradition america has of having a right as well to anonymous speech. this goes back to our earliest framers and founders. >> not everybody has millions and millions of dollars to use for their anonymous...

The am budsman. >> i believe at the end i said i am just kidding. >> you said jk which is lame. >> which is a good point. remi, you seemed to knock the concept of an anonymous speech. >> i don't knock the entire -- saying come mu -- communist china and greg said communist russia. >> i didn't say exactly what you said. you said they should all be in jail. i think they should close off the comment section completely. >> it is good to get rid of anonymous comments because then i don't have the urge to leave them. screw you, weird guy. instead i say i don't want them to know it is me. i just leave...

Harm someone. >> it is terrible advice and now yahoo is talking about phil mikelson is national news and we are repeat this and what was gossip is now a big story. anonymous speech should be protected and it has bigger effects than on phil mikelson. >> honestly, if you allow the individuals to cloak their identity, they will continue doing this type of harm and especially when it comes to something like this, how many hits? i put in my cell, it has over a million hits. honestly, it generates itself, and even before this. >>shepard: i don't know would believes anything in that box. >> and anony...