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Circuit court is not an option. probably get the same result. do they wait and argue it in washington? that will take time. a 90 day or a 120-day ban. do they appeal to the supreme court? the supreme court is the direct appe appeal. if you break that down, it is 4-4. given the ruling, it seems the supreme court may tend to agree with the lower court. >> that's right. i don't think anybody should be under the misconception that the supreme court would divide along ideological lines or political lines in this case. one decision that the state of washington was the decision written by one of the ...

Sundance premiere. we didn't want to go out to somebody if they weren't going to be in the film. the other thing that's key, other than jameis winston, whose name is public we didn't name any of the accused. we knew their names were not going to be out there. >> and yet, some of the stories are in the public record. some did go through investigations, as well as even court cases. why didn't you include, even if they rejected wanting to be interviewed on camera, why didn't you include their version that kale out in public documents? >> we included -- we actually what we did we went through thou...

>> it sure seems that way. i've seen videos of her in presentations, she's becoming a spokesman for -- for victims went she's not a victim. yeah, i believe she's cap toolizing on this, i believe she's making a career on this. she looks much happier when on tv than she was in the courtroom. she was not credible. >> mr. zalkind, i met her as well, i've seen her crying, look sensitive, i've seen her look distraught. that is your interpretation. and it's an awfully cynical one that she would want to go through, again, this sort of public scrutiny for four years in order to become, as you say, a ce...

About, the accuser is not part of, that's -- that is a flawed justice system. >> look, i'm not going to go into the details of what happened in that one, because i wasn't the attorney. but i've handled -- we've handled probably as many of these campus cases as anybody in the country, and we are not finding that a lot of universities, not all of them, but a lot of the universities, the procedures are unfair. at this point in time to males. so i don't agree with you, that it was a flaw. this was one of the best procedures that we had ever seen. >> do you think it's fair to the accuser not to hav...

I'm screwed. >> 20 years, 25 years. that's reasonable. 50 years is -- make an example out of me or something. what did you expect? >> i didn't expect 43. >> what was the worst in your mind? >> worst was like 28. >> no matter what, 43 years? >> yeah. is that your only hope, an appe appeal? >> right now, breaking out.