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Little over an hour now. at this point in the afternoon -- late afternoon in california. joining me now is lance ulenoff, editor and chief of mashinable.com and former editor of "pc" magazine. thanks for joining me tonight, lance. >> thanks for having me on. >> you were a friend of steve jobs for a very long time. what is your reaction to where we are tonight with this news? >> well, i should say, you know, i'm stunned. i worked with apple for year, you know, talking to them about products. i've been in the same room with steve jobs during his many product announcements. i never had the pleasu...

And when he left, clearly apple was left substantially reduced. and i think to a large extent, when he left, he was substantially reduced. both the company and steve jobs needed each other decembsperate and it's doubtful any one of them could survive the others. i think it was one of the reasons he was tied so tightly to the job. he was convinced he couldn't survive without being a major part of apple. so it's -- his passing is a great, a very deep meaning i think for the overall technology market and in general apple in particular. >> technology analyst rob enderle, thank you very much for jo...

Detectives have harnessed apple's products to do their jobs more efficiently and intuitively. tonight our city, a city that has always had such respect and admiration for creative genius, joins with people around the planet in remembering a great man and keeping laurene and the rest of the jobs family in our thoughts and prayers." joining me now is janet shamlian who is live just outside of apple headquarters in cupertino, california. janet, what is the scene there? >> reporter: well, you know, this is the home, the campus of apple, lawrence. and right now the flags behind me, i don't know if ...

I think he imbued the company with enough spirit and has tim cook and a product pipeline deep enough that's going to survive him several years to come. for those that i think are maybe overly pessimistic about apple's future, i think one of the genius elements of mr. jobs is he's been able to create an entity that probably has a very good life going forward. >> ron insana of cnbc. thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> lawrence, thank you. >> bill gates, the former chief executive of microsoft said in a statement that he was, "truly saddened to learn of steve jobs' death." he added, "t...

Company, a 50,000-employee company that was so consistently ahead of the curve and ahead of all their competitors? >> people will be writing newspaper articles and blog posts and books about that for many years to come. i don't have the answer. and it will be -- it will be really interesting to see what happens with apple and what happens with personal computer technology in the years to come. people think of apple, people have thought of apple for so long as steve jobs. he embodied that company, that line of products, that approach to design so personally. i think it would be a mistake to try...