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On trump. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. The debate will be hosted by bret baier and Martha Maccallum. I spoke to the anchor of the story from new york. Martha maccallum, welcome. Hi, howie, good to be with you. Howie i havent seen a build up like this for a first debate at the beginning of a campaign since that 2015 Fox Debate With Political Newcomer donald trump. I turned to the other channels i see fox debate. What are people saying . Why do you think that is . I think theres a lot of enthusiasm. I think people are much more politically engaged and probably since that 2015 debate an...

Friend i think it was the january 6 indictment i forget, which, and he was telling me i have it on right now. he's heading into the courtroom i'm like what? i forgot about it. it didn't even interest me so yeah, its lost its shock value but look these are serious legal cases. howie: especially this one. >> maybe they aren't tried before the nomination is settled i think it's kind of hard the timing. to say we're going to indict him on all this stuff and try him immediately on all of them has just in hair entertainment due process issues, right? because how many trials can you prepare for at on...