Zelensky were and trying to get a good sense of it. there's more conversations he's had with him that weren't disclosed in the whistle-blower complaint or in the memo of the call between the two leaders. >> there's a lot of moving parts. susan, when you have those parts, the pompeo subpoena, and the volker resignation, where do these twists fit into the impeachment saga? >> the democrats are going to have to lay out their case, they can use the whistle-blower complaint as a guideline and we know that it's been validated by trump's appointed inspector general. so now they're trying to see how d...