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Is not the truth. Is that just misspeaking or part of a campaign of deception . Its time to go deep. Lets get after it. In an on the record interview with reuters, the president says that he could run the probe himself if he wanted. All this coming after his biggest tweet storm yet about mueller and word that his white House Counsel cooperated with muellers probe more than trump might have known. Here to discuss that and much more, former Attorney General michael mukasey. Judge, good to have you as always. Good to be with you. So if you were to hear that the president has decided, im taking ov...

Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with indepth reporting and investigations. He said that initially. They later reversed themselves and flynn was indicted for making a false statement to an fbi agent. But as point of fact, judge, hes told them things that were not true and things that he should have known and recollected in realtime. Right. Maybe he did. And maybe he did it because he thought there was some impropriety about having the conversation with kislyak. Thats why sally yates, then at the a. G. s office, then went to don mcgahn and said you better figure out Whats Goin...

Does the shamelessness and openness of it, put yourself in an investigators role and you've taken the blunt of it and know how these folks are, does doing it in the open as an investigator indicate guilt or just a lack of knowledge that what you're doing is illegal? >> well, i certainly think it indicates the brazenness and probably a lack of sophistication or care what they were doing. you can say you're doing something and have all the intent in the world to do something that's wrong. you know, what is really interesting to me is georgia is part of a pattern you talk about things being in th...

>> it's actually not respect -- >> those aren't exclusive, chris. i think from a legal advice perspective, it is. >> certainly trump's lawyers have taken and that's -- and will continue. >> i think bakari alluded to it. if i were on the trump legal team, i'd be advising him not to sit down with mueller for both of the reasons you started out with, chris. again, they're not exclusive with each other. and rudy giuliani, in his examples inartfully talked about who do you believe? is it only one or the other? his example is it comey's truth or is it trump's truth?

I'm not sure this president is equipped to actually function with just mueller and a few investigators because what he will do is lie. what he will do is deceive. what he will do is mislead the investigators like he misled the american public, and he's going to find himself with criminal charges. >> where were you last night? too slow. you're a liar. ken, let me ask you this. >> i was on the grill. i was on the grill. >> too late. you had to think about it. ken, the idea of it's not about mueller needing to trap the president. it's about the president trapping himself. that his guys are worrie...