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Out of hand. at this point these aren't tariffs, they're attack on hard-working americans. the way that we can beat china in the global marketplace is by investing our american workers. our human capital is our most potent work force. neil: i know this pre-dates you almosting a congressman, but the hurricane in florida, dorian, seems to be taken a slight turn, and he's seen history where hugs that storm the coast go up to the northeast. as a staten island, and sandy that didn't register as a hurricane. a lot of floridians, i'm not saying they're' nonchalant, but thinking this, too, will pass. ...

Whether you're an official or one working on the ground in florida, everyone seems to be on the same page. the standard was set some time ago. some say it's a fallout from hurricane katrina back in 2005 when there was arguing and disputing and politicizing back and forth, the president who wasn't in sync with the mayor of new orleans, wasn't in sync with the governor back and forth. michael brown was caught in the middle of that, the former fema director. no doubt encouraged by the cooperation he sees among the authorities and all sorts of parties. mike, good to have you. people forget how imp...

Countries in their camp, ute loosing their major corporations like huawei and others to build the telecommunications infrastructure. and that's a major battle that we have to contend with. i want to maybe ask admiral stavridis and evelyn, in this concept of a trade war, when you utilize tariffs, aren't a lot of the casualties on our side, because after all, aren't tariffs fundamentally hurting american businesses, and ultimately american consumers? >> indeed they are, jeremy. and again, let's look at history here. go back 100 years ago. we tried tariffs, right? we tried the howly smooth tariff...

So just talking about these tariffs is probably notching him down. >> i believe there are a lot of trump voters that particularly as he has performed, and there are so many snafus, they're embarrassed so say they voted for him. when i see a poll in texas that says elizabeth warp will beat donald trump, i say people are not telling the truth. i think there is a lot of trumpers out there that publicly don't admit it, even -- that happened the first time and we have to be careful. >> i'm from michigan and there was so many promises made to people in michigan and across the entire midwest and inst...

It. but there is a role for tariffs and dealing with countries like china. using tariffs in mexico on immigration without precedent makes absolutely no since. >> no sense. >> i will pick up and point out that tariffs and trades are not apples an orange, they're apples and hubcaps and make no sense, and not to use them together in mexico. the point on china, we need to, to your point, we do need to bend china in order to get them more in compliance globally but we got to be careful we don't break it because when you break it you're back in in the 1930s scenario. bend but not break. >> and presi...