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Credibility. >> they are not wrong. michael cohen has lied. >> he has acknowledged that. the white house has a massive credibility problem. this is why when you have -- it's very rare -- >> the white house, as far as i know, have not acknowledged that they have lied about anything. >> correct. i think that's -- they have acknowledged sometimes errors. very infrequently. so this is why when i had a lot of people around the white house and around the president saying to me today, why is everyone not just -- why do they have -- why does the trump team have to give a response? because people are n...

Attention, being out there representing the president. i can't really take him for factual based statement just on what you read now. >> can you say that again please? he just spreads propaganda when he comes on. sometimes it's effective. there's no evidence and he is speaking all these things that aren't true. it may be affected by the trump's circle. effective. maybe it is working, you know. >> the first eight minutes, he argued about a footnote over the fisa filing. and the texts of the strzok, page communications. it was bizarre stuff. he was off on a tangent deflecting chris from the line...

Nonetheless, i think that's her concern. >> if you call the president out on saying things that aren't true, what she is saying doesn't seem to be true. >> we have a phrase for this. bollocks. think about what the president gets accused of. stepping on norms. just flat-out lying to make a case. she was petty. she's lying. she's flat-out lying. we'll see if that gets reported. nancy pelosi falsely claims, which is how the president gets reported when he's fact checked, there's no security problem here, none whatsoever. she would have been better served to tell the truth and say he gave a fantas...

Billing night. we've got some biggests. here's another one. former federal prosecutor john fl flannery who just told me about this report from mueller's office. what is your point of view? >> what's important is being a truth teller and really cooperating to not. the false statements he apparently made, although a lot of this is blocked out before the grand jury and briefings and witnesses they have and so forth. it sort of goes to false loans, moneys that were paid, lies about offshore people actually lobbying here, that is, so coercing them to say things that aren't true, and then the final ...

>> i can relate. and i'm sure that the people that are on the receiving end will make adjustments. >> reporter: he has made his case with a blizzard of false claims. and today, i asked vice president mike pence about the administration's credibility under fire. how can the president be -- how can his word be trusted on this when he has said so many things that are just not true about this crisis? he said that barack obama has a ten-foot wall built around his house here in washington. you know that's not true. he said that some of his predecessors told him that they wanted to build a wall. but ...