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Anything for us. and the fact is. i looked it up. we do give those countries money, of course in 2017. 175 million so far in 15 million. 297 mull in 2016 and 50 million in 2018. then he went on to say part that isn't true. the president said some things there that aren't true. he has no evidence to back them up. there is no evidence toe back them up because it disungtsd exist to your knowledge at least at this point. the president as he did with the russians said please look in the files, if you have 33,000 emails russia get them. russia went in and started looking for them. he is asking the m...

Poverty, violence. we have a series of fact checkers that have said there is no evidence to support the claims that the president is making about for example middle easterners. so let me go back one more time, he keeps saying that aren't true. why? >> as it relate to the this caravan, i don't think we know he who is in there. we know there are dissidents from venezuela. that has been proven. people probably paying somebody to join piethese. >> but there is no evidence for that. i don't want to get into a back and forth because i'm asking a broader question that i haven't heard a answer for fro...

The president listens to what people tell him and he repeats those facts. so if they are giving him the wrong information that is the responsibility of the staff. >> and i know you wanted to jump in here. >> sure. the president's big challenge is to sell a product that isn't himself. he is very good at turning people out. some of whom are infrequent voters. but when he wasn't on the ballot, he made the same argument that president trump is making now, my policies are on the ballot, come support the democrats. it doesn't work. with regard to immigration, two things can be true. president trump ...

Are outraged over kavanaugh and immigration and will turn out and vote like they did last time, even though his name is not on the ballot, but i certainly agree. any of us being in prediction, it is a little fool hardy. we are gun shy of doing that. the normal rules of politics seem to have changed and donald trump is a major player in that, even though he is not up for election now, he hovers over this. we should be prepared for any outcome. >> you look at the polling numbers, nbc, "the wall street journal" poll today essentially showing donald trump has the highest approval rating of his ent...

Discussions and it is like even though he told the associated press he is not on the ballot he is a shadow over the ballot and republicans are driven by the support and the president is a boogieman that drives democrats to the polls. >> but people say they want all the time is a reasonable, pragmatic washington that is not gridlocked. they want bipartisanship. if what you're saying true, stev nick, i turn to steve, we'll end up with a hollowed out center. >> i talked about it in my book but there's a portion of the human beings hard wired a bit for tribalism and where trump is going at the dem...