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Be a suggestion they were trying to have the true audience be mueller and his team. one would hope mueller and his team are probably much more well versed in this than certainly the nonmedia savvy trump campaign team was, but mueller already knows this. >> jason, this gets to an essential legal question here. and i should note it's not just michael wolff's book of this air force one meeting crafting a false statement of what that trump tower meeting was about saying it was about russian adoptions when we know it was about dirt on hillary clinton. from a legal standpoint, if a president crafts ...

Truth. >> mueller's objective here is to figure out whether a crime has occurred and whether or not someone has impeded his ability to do that very thing. part of the inquiry will be if somebody is saying i'd like you not to disclose the truth even though we know the fbi probably already had the e-mails in their possession and the e-mail trail that said this was not just talking about adoption, it's more than that. >> and can we go back? let's keep the facts in order because we were told in that pressroom in the beginning there was no collusion, no contact with russia. then there was limited c...

Comey. at this point his term is unsalvageable. they called for sessions to step down. the democrats are sort of stuck in this position of trying to defend jeff sessions to keep him there because they're worried mueller will get fired. i don't think they can imbibe jeff sessions in this job any longer. we can't trust christopher ray, the head of the fbi, rob rosenstein to do their job and act honorably and stand up to the president. >> it's important, though, if you go to the hill today and you were talking to people, that's exactly where they're at. we don't want sessions but it's six and a h...

>> not necessarily. there's a chance he may have stayed. >> let me finish. so what's clear is that he acted based on the guidance he was given by the career lawyers, whose job it is to give suggestions in these scenarios. and what has he done despite that sphhe didn't recuse himself but gone about trying to please donald trump. i'm sorry, but the spokesperson at the justice department who's denying it, she's been caught denying things that have been proven true in the past. >> they deny everything. >> what we do know according to the article mueller is looking at all of this, and everything is...