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Sacred commitment to one another that an attack on one is an attack against all. so article v of the washington treaty and the core building block of our lives, and the only time in history article v has been invoked was after 9/11, when the united states was attacked and all our allies rallied to our side. the united states will never forget that. we will never fail in our pledge to defend every single inch of nato territory. i welcome sweden and finland choosing that responsibility, as well. this is going to benefit all of our people. today the president and prime minister and i committed we...

Article v, nato's resilience. they have never tried to test it. i continue to be believe so, nato is a strong alliance and russians fully respect that. reporter: today is orthodox easter. people across the country marking the holy holiday. for orthodox christians in ukraine there is no physical church to holding the services today. the russians were using the church to store ambitions. ukraine bombed it to make the russians leave. he says he thinks president biden still thinks president biden should visit this country. back to you guys in talladega. pete: thank you, matt, very much. rachel: so...

Haven't tried to do this already. and it could be that they're not particularly good at it. there is some reporting that they're having difficulty with some of their satellite systems. so, basic intelligence, where these handoffs are taking place and where the weapons are coming in, that the west and the americans are supplying them. i think given the chance, though, they will definitely go at this and then of course there's always a risk balance going on in putin's mind. what if they try to hit a bunch of western tanks that are being sent in and those tanks haven't crossed the line from polan...

The key question here which is, where is vladimir putin's red line? does he have one? does he know what it is? i don't think the u.s. knows what it is. the point at which he says, nato and the west and the united states are giving ukraine too much, this is getting -- i can't tolerate this. too many russian soldiers are dying. what we have seen is just increased flow of weaponry to ukraine as russia beats a retreat, takes incredible losses. ukraine is suffering enormously but this has been basically a debacle for russia. at this point if you had kind of looked into a crystal ball you might have...

The west refusing to turn up, in a sense, the pressure on russia. as long as russia has a market for its energy, russia is not cut off from the global economy and that's just a fact. >> i spoke with european diplomats last week who spoke and it's not the first time we've heard this, about the possibility of eu membership for ukraine as a step below nato membership and they noted that while there was certainly no mutual defense commitment with the eu as there is with article v with nato. could that be a middle ground for ukraine going forward? >> yeah, absolutely. and i think by the way, it's s...