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I think we in the media tend to get fixated on the processed stuff. what struck me about the whole syria debate was how twitter basically engulfed, there was such rapid reaction and analy s analysis. >> twitter engulfing a debate? that doesn't happen. >> but i think in that sense the public, i'm assuming, largely tunes out the vast majority of this instant analysis and then will tune in and say what happened in the end. and i think in that sense obama may benefit from the fact that he's been patient on some of this stuff. but i think chuck also hit on a very valid point which is that this has ...

To get into this concept that if we simply just drop bombs or give money or elevate one figure, things will solve itself but that's not really how this stuff works. >> or shake hands. >> don't forget the saudis -- >> or hand over the nuclear codes. >> the saudis have thrown some money at some of the forces that we're not crazy about. we're doing the arms. so how is that going to incentivize iran to back off too. this is not just the united states that plays a role in this. >> chuck, looking towards -- i mean sort of big picture here. looking towards the rest of the president's second term, i t...

Snowden and such. so i think there's a lot of stuff going on thee at rickally around the middle east speech that are very important but getting lost. >> i would just add i think long term there may be diplomatic ripples and benefits from what's happening in the u.n., but in any reasonable near term scenario, i think the effect of a handshake between obama and the leader of iran on the u.s. public opinion will be infinitesimally small. >> there are a couple of things we have to discuss here, but we should not forget to mention and discuss the fact that the president planted his flag in the noti...