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we have justin jones fro tennessee, and i've got maxwel frost on here. it's interesting to me, becaus a man of a certain age, to hav these young people, who are th civil rights fighters of our time, it's amazing to watch. >> and such a contrast wit what we are led to believe about government, and it's antipathy towards the people and if there is reason for optimism in this moment, it' you didn't guess on your show. >> the really, it is and there's people who don't believe in the way things work or the way things are an prepared to challenge, it an say there's a different wa going for...

Donald trump has lost anothe legal battle tonight, a federal appeals court rejected his attempt t block his former vice presiden mike pence, from testifying in front of the jacks mitt federa grand jury, investigatin trump's role in overturning th 2020 election. donald trump could appeal th decision to the supreme court, but if he doesn't, mike penc is likely to be before a grand jury very soon there's a lot of other trump legal news to cover soon, as the indicted former presiden was the subject of extensive and graphic testimony, from e. jean carroll, in the civil rap case in -- we but first, ...