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They are going to do a thorough investigation. >> during your years as an american airlines pilot, were you involved in a conversation where you can talk about what you want, did you ever get so engaged in conversation you became literally unaware of what's going on around you? >> no. no. i mean, you can get in heated discussions over many things and you can have life event that is are distracting, divorces, problems with kids, but, you know, if you don't feel capable of flying, if you don't feel fit to fly, the federal aviation regulations are established to allow you to call in sick without ...

Than answers? and paging the president. some democrats urging president obama to speak out on the health care public option. plus, swine of the times. the swine flu outbreak now changing the way kids play sports. and you can forget about that postgame handshake. a good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. welcome to "msnbc saturday." 10:00 a.m. here on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. out west. first up, the pilot of northwest flight 188 is speaking out, and he's denying speculation that the crew fell asleep during those 75 minutes they were out of communication with air traffic controllers. but p...

Snowy abandon. we'll get to that. but first up, the latest on that mid-air mystery. federal investigators say they will interview the two pilots of northwest flight 188 this weekend, and now for the first time, we're hearing from one of those pilots. >> i can't talk about the specifics, but there are a lot of misinformation that's going on. things are being said that didn't happen. nobody was asleep in the cockpit and no arguments took place. but other than that, i cannot tell you anything that went on. >> joining me live is tom casey, a retired american airlines pilot, now flight instructor...

More now on our top story, the investigation into how northwest flight 188 overshot the minneapolis airport by 150 miles. federal investigators say they will interview the plane's two pilots this weekend. joining me live now, tom casey. tom is a flight instructor and retired american airlines pilot. he's also the author of the books "human error" and "strangers' gate." you've been in the cockpit for american airlines, tom. what do you think happened? >> many times. well, they obviously got distracted, but we're going to have to hear the story from the pilots. but i want to just amuse the viewi...

Is probably, for that gap of time when they were out of radio communication, probably won't come into play. >> okay. both inside and outside the industry, lots of speculation that these pilots just fell asleep. there is no way at this point to tell if it's true or not, but what are you learning about the pilot fatigue factor possibly being in effect here? >> well, there's been a lot of debate over the years as to whether pilots should be able to take a nap, and the faa is right now -- before this occurred, had been reviewing the rules. and there's a push now to speed that up. with this particu...