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President trump wanted president zelensky to commit publicly to those two investigations of the 2016 craziness and the -- hunter biden's role over there, he was going to get the assistance but not get a nickel of it before he did that. and with military aid hanging in the balance president trump insisted to sondland he go to a camera and open investigations of biden and that 2016 thing. and president zelensky to do it himself. they were pushing to personally do it. ambassador mcfaul, thank you for joining us. what strikes me these three amigos, rudy giuliani, sondland, volker, rick perry, the ...

What is strange they seem to have only occasional influence on the president of the united states right now who seems to be very willing to ignore and just go his own direction despite where his advisers think is the best course for the nation. >> john, you were quoted in "the washington post" saying kushner's reported back channel effort illustrates the trump team had less trust in the american government than in a foreign adversary that undermined our election. tell me about is that influential in what we heard from angela merkel, the idea russia threatens in the eyes of some european nato a...