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They really care. this is something of importance to them. and it's important to us. i've got seven grandkids. i want them to grow up in a healthy environment. i don't want to see my legacy that we left them a planet that is being destroyed. >> i want to get your sense of this question. you worked in an administration that did do some regulatory rollbacks. >> uh-huh. >> the roadless rule for forestry was put in by clinton and tried to -- not out of epa, out of interior, tried to roll it back. if someone says, look, donald trump is just behaving the way any republican president would on this is...

>> the roadless rule for forestry was put in by clinton and tried to -- not out of epa, out of interior, tried to roll it back. if someone says, look, donald trump is just behaving the way any republican president would on this issue. if it were marco rubio and jeb bush, it would be the same. what is your reaction to that? >> no, no. he has taken it to an extreme we have not seen. was the bush administration as environmentally sensitive as i would have liked? no. but they didn't have a war on science, which this administration clearly has. they are undermining science right, left and center. t...

The possibility that we might slide into a military confrontation with iran without having clearly thought through the consequences and the costs. >> you know, most of us -- you i'm sure grew up understanding how we got into world war i. it was a series of mobilizations on both sides. one triggering the other side until we had a terrible war with everybody involved. do you think this president knows that he is starting trouble over there? >> i'm gravely concerned that because we have a president who -- the first president with no prior military experience or elected experience, someone widely ...

Kind of get this settled. so, i mean, some of these things are not an easy decision. and the other thing is if he decides to send, say, only summary conclusions and not the whole report, then i guess they'll, they have the right to subpoena the report and everything? if. >> well, you know, there's a middle ground, right? you could observe the right rules and policies and redact portions but not give just a summary report. so there can still be a pretty fulsome document that goes over. but you're right, the next issue is -- it sounds like they're kind of predissupposed to calling people in the ...

Aniston. >> right. >> reese witherspoon, steve carrell. john and i are wondering who is going to play us. >> i have learned a lot, but so much as changed in morning tv. my book could end up being background material because it was an anne curry and matt lauer. it's stranger than fiction. it's been interesting in the writers' room to see the writers come up with a more shocking story line. >> this is the plan. >> you all are impossible. right? you're impossible. >> you're right, to imitate. >> that's my theory. >> it's stranger than fiction, he says. >> about morning news also. >> a man who wak...