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Testimony because it wasn't just an investigation of joe biden that he -- that the president wanted announced by ukraine. right? it was also that he wanted announced investigation from ukraine of 2016 election interference. 2016 election interference by ukraine. he wanted an investigation announced into that, too. 2016 election interference by ukraine is not a thing. it did not happen. it was russia that interfered in the 2016 election to benefit donald trump. it wasn't ukraine. so last night, on the show, we tried to find in the wild, some trace, some explanation for where that weird sort of ...

Where that weird sort of backwards theory about the 2016 election might have come from. the whole u.s. intelligence community says it was russia. more than a dozen russian intelligence officers are currently indicted by the justice department because it was russia. it was russia. so where's this weird thing coming from that trump is pursuing in this pressure campaign in ukraine, this insistence by him it wasn't russia that interfered in 2016, it was ukraine that did it? well, as of last night as i mentioned on the show last night, the incidents we know of in the wild where that strange thing m...

Announce they were doing so so of course it would have maximum damaging or embarrassing political effect. actually put that quote back up there on the screen again from bill taylor's testimony because it wasn't just an investigation of joe biden that he -- that the president wanted announced by ukraine, right? it was also that he wanted an announced investigation from ukraine of 2016 election interference. 2016 election interference by ukraine. he wanted an investigation announced into that, too. 2016 election interference by ukraine is not a thing. it did not happen. it was russia that interf...