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Leading experts on corruption. her central argument which she learned in afghanistan and all over the world is that you can't get security now and then thereafter take care of the governance issues and the corruption problems. corruption turns out to be like a really bad, bad, bad virus. it's easy to get and it's hard to kill. but if you're a country, once you've got it, once you've got a bad case of corruption, it not only saps a country of its ability to thrive. it accelerates some of the most dangerous things on earth. radicalism, conflict, unbridgeable division. she literally wrote the boo...

What sarah choice ended up becoming through all of that was one of the world's leading experts on corruption. her central argument which she learned in afghanistan and all over the world is that you can't get security now and then thereafter take care of the governor's issues and the corruption problems. corruption turns out to be like a really bad, bad, bad virus. it's easy to get and it's hard to kill. but if you're a country, once you've got it, once you've got a bad case of corruption, it not only sap as country of its ability to thrive, it accelerates some of the most dangerous things on ...

Her central argument which she learned in afghanistan and all over the world, whats that you can't, you know, get security now and then thereafter take care of the govern fans issues and the corruption problems, corruption turns out to be a really bad, bad virus. easy to get and it's hard to kill. but if you are a country, once you got it, once you've got a bad case of corruption, not only saps a country of its ability to 39, it accelerates some of the post-dangerous things on earth, radicalism, conflict. unbridgeable division. she literally wrote the book on it, theirs of state. but she's her...

Lets get your snapshot of where we are. we took a tour of the country focused on louisiana. some of these states with very low rates of vaccination seeing the biggest problems, hospitalizations through the roof in some of those places. where are we right now as a country, and where do you think we're headed as we move into the summer and fall when schools open again? >> what this delta variant has done is it's really exposed the unvaccinated people to getting quite sick from the virus, and we have seen this from practically the entire world. there was a prelude to this in the united kingdom, a...

So interesting because there is a group of americans who perhaps as we heard the woman in gabe's piece say, i felt pushed into it. she was listening to all sorts of information, perhaps they followed donald trump's followers, and there's a lot of distrust, and disinformation even though trump himself got the vaccine. he didn't push it. he pushed a lot of distrust in the vaccine and even recently has done that. and what the movable middle has now is they have been able to watch science play out before their eyes. and they see that the vaccinated are safer from this virus than the unvaccinated. ...