Job after his mother had to self-deport during the trump administration. and there s a mother of two in her 40s who still to this day had a loan balance hanging over her head, even though she had to stop going to school to get a job. take a listen. i m 46 years old and still have this over my head. so this announcement definitely gives a little hope for starters, some type of relief for us. i voted for the president specifically for this issue. $20,000 for pell recipients would be a major victory. and i would i voted for the president for those reasons and i would feel like the president is delivering to an extent, even if it s not everything that we advocated for. and what s interesting, you talked about those 43 million student loan borrowers. 39% of them, which is something we don t often talk about, actually didn t get a degree in the six years since the first day they enrolled. so that s a lot of people, right? a lot of people who have loans