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those comments were delivered to a new house select committee on china. we have a lot to get to this morning from the panel's prime time hearing. meanwhile, a trip to china by a putin ally is increasing concerns that beijing will ramp up support for russian forces. back here at home, president joe biden's student loan forgiveness plan went before the supreme court yesterday with the conservative majority expressing some skepticism about wiping away debt for some borrowers. also ahead, reaction to an historic defeat in chicago. for the first time in four decades, the city's mayor ha...

Dad to china, and it was all about balancing interest, concerns they may have with strong messages that need to be sent. so similar in some ways that add in covid and add in today's challenges. >> yeah, similar, but i think there was probably more optimism that there could be a relationship that was more balanced than there is today in the united states, and because of the deterioration in u.s./china relations, that's had an impacts in the u.s. and uk. i think you're right to point out there's some division in the intelligence communities over the degree of confidence with which anyone knows w...

Right, in which the balancing test. the balancing interest is can you capture them and is there going to be undue harm? will it be too hard? you can malk a scenario in which the test that is laid out in the white paper leads do you the conclusion that under that balancing test you strike it. >> i think -- >> you want to attack the test. but before you start to say that these things are likely to happen, if you had a pramg like this going on -- >> i didn't say exactly. >> even impropable. the key thing to do is not worry about imagining but worry about demonstrated illustrations of abuse and th...