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The white house continues to assert all sorts of privileges over material of documents and witnesses. in order to prevent, and you're going to have to little gait that. in order to find out and test whether or not those privileges are real and will be upheld, you have to go to court. if you go to court without an impeachment inquiry, it's just harder to win. the courts are more likely to find that privilege gives way to some other process or some other purpose if there's something else going on. one of the reasons u.s. v. nixon, the supreme court case in the '70s was decided in favor is becaus...

Democrats made so many gains in pennsylvania and california, i've seen no sign that there is in groundswell of support for impeachment. and don't see the numbers growing rapidly. so every time we talk about 70 members in favor, that means 140 are against impeachment. and that number is still bigger. >> there is not a lock that impeachment will take place because the speaker is firm. she has made this point in ways and that interview with our colleague fareed zakaria, she's saying, this is a balancing test between the constitutional authority to impeachment and the responsibility of congress to...

>> multiples. >> is there no requirement on the part of johnson & johnson to raise a red flag and say hold on a second. why are ten times, 20 times the amount we believe the people should be receiving this drug. why is there a multiple out there? there is no consequence to that? >> you raised a really powerful, moral argument. the question is, is this a legal theory for holding the company liable? where you have several different as we call in the law intervening causation events happening in between to cut off potentially the causation chain. is it enough to hold the drug companies liable sim...

President. >> one of the articles included him gossiping agent legislatures. that didn't work. there is no point. paul, you better agree with me on this, i'm not playing today, everything in the law is a balancing test, right? you have to balance. so what is important to the constituents? as opposed to impeachment. how are you going to get a democratic in the presidency? think about that. stop wasting time with the impeachment. let the prosecutors do what they are paid to do. they are going to get him. >> the problem is that the foreign general of the united states. the flunky for the presiden...

Interest of other foreign administrations to say we can trust we're able to have candid conversations with you against what congress and the public's right to know is. there are ways that that fulcrum and balancing test weighs in favor of congress, given the things that both chris and fwlora have laid out about the notions of the president having these conversations, references for the nato of alliance, the decision not to have anyone else in the room when you should have had others there as well. they weigh in favor of having a more compelling reason to having it disclosed. >> bianna, you wan...