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so their actual records can be assessed. for only understandable focus on trump's nickel problems and controversies and rhetoric, it was his substance handling of the covid pandemic that impacted so many laughs and dragged him down in the eyes of mary and americans who concluded he found the task when faced with that all-important leadership test. as for trump, he said at the time he did not see the emergency as his test of a lifetime. >> was there a moment in all of this, the last two months, where you say to yourself, a, this is the leadership test of a lifetime. >> no. >> no. no h...

We have taken away the public health funding to create that very infrastructure to stand up to the manhattan project, if we need it. and the humanity that's missing. a lot of us that have survived and watched these deaths, what i would love to have seen for the president is that moment of humanity that we saw when joe biden finally let the candlelight village, vigil, not far from here, for the lives that we lost. that's -- >> you can just run from it without facing it. dr. patel, thanks for joining. us ball bob, i have one more set of questions for you. stay with us. stay with us top grills an...

And bob, when you look at this urging the sometimes to, and we have in july 20 where we have him focused on the campaign against defensive when you talk about responsibility. let's talk about that. >> you have to be fair, i think. i don't think you have to be tough. >> yeah yeah, that includes being fair but there is. >> nobody's done what i've done. bob in three have years. it's not my fault. but the virus >> that's china's fault. >> lindsey graham is right. you are running against the virus, not joe biden. >> well i'm running against both. >> this picks up where we left top, with you, bob, w...

Also touch on the world we are in right now, a president under investigation, a president in trials. and if you look at their dealings here, there are some parallels on the way the donald trump even, against evidence, tries to argue why he is a certain way or whether he was too busy to deal with, well, what's on his plate. >> have you ever sat down alone with him and gotten a tutorial -- >> yes, i guess, but honestly there's not a lot of time for that, bob. this busy white house. >> why not hand them over then? >> because i had boxes, i want to go through the boxes and get all my personal thin...

Sharpen something because the role of enemies and evil. it cement something illness that is not proportionate to the threat or body count. covid was literally this kind of threat. you have the president giving the warning bob mentions. politics raises that with the internal warnings, with a national security advisers. take a look. >> i think the exact phrase i used was, this would be the biggest national security threat you faced on your presidency. >> so then you guys made your presentation to trump. did he say anything? >> well, no, he listened to it carefully. >> was there a moment in all o...