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You know, if they were a welcoming party. doesn't that sort of prove the point that this administration in christopher's argument, if they're not welcoming to african-americans, then they don't want to join the administration, why would they do it? >> i want to be really clear that there are -- i would like to be clear and note there are african-american conservatives out there in america who would actually be willing to go in there and work in this white house. jerron is someone who works in the white house who is working our ban policy issues, who has the ear of folks in the administration. ...

Don't want to join the administration, why would they do it? >> i want to be really clear that there are -- i would like to be clear and note there are african-american conservatives out there in america who would actually be willing to go in there and work in this white house. jerron is someone who works in the white house who is working our ban policy issues, who has the ear of folks in the administration. so to assert that there are no black people that are conservatives in america that would go work in this administration or this administration is not true. >> who made that assertion? >> t...