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Message immediately. that's a signal he was like, whoa. because obviously she and others like her have been some of the strongest supporters. she called him a shallow, lazy ignoramus. >> you know what ship? she said, we knew he was a shallow, lazy ignoramus, but we thought they would at least -- >> i think that's right. but i think for that spending bill to blow the deficit out like that, and to not get any border wall funding, for those hardcore trumpers, that was a huge violation of what they'd all agreed to and thought was coming down the pike. >> you think that's why ann coulter, she hit t...

Don't want to join the administration, why would they do it? >> i want to be really clear that there are -- i would like to be clear and note there are african-american conservatives out there in america who would actually be willing to go in there and work in this white house. jerron is someone who works in the white house who is working our ban policy issues, who has the ear of folks in the administration. so to assert that there are no black people that are conservatives in america that would go work in this administration or this administration is not true. >> who made that assertion? >> t...

Strongest supporters. she called him a shallow, lazy ignore rail mulls. >> you know what ship? she said, we knew he was a shallow, lazy ignoramus, but we thought they would at least -- pair traysing. >> i think that's right. but i think for that spending bill to blow the deficit out like that, and to not get any border wall funding, for those hardcore trumpers, that was a huge violation of what they'd all agreed to and thought was coming down the pike. >> you think that's why ann coulter, she hit the nail on the head, she strulk a chord with him, do you think that's why he started tweeting all...

Conservatives out there in america. there's a couple -- >> in america, of course. >> it's tough, it's a tough environment. >> let christopher respond. >> there's a load of black conservatives. it's always interesting when -- >> talking about interns, let's not get far afield about what we're doing. if you look at that picture, that picture is not representative of america. listen, i've got to get to a break. i'm going to let you respond on the other side. let me put this up as we go to break. this is 2014. this is president barack obama. and so there you go. you can see interns are far more di...