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States and a sliver of people and largely independents in those states and i'll say here on national television by some of the polling i'm seeing right now, i might have been wrong when i said i don't think this is going to move the needle at all because this is not a kitchen table issue that voters on either side of the aisle or independents are concerned about. they're not concerned about the trial. some are like trial? oh, yeah. heard something about that in the northeast. at the end of the day what i'm seeing is two polls that have come out and showing numbers like 60% of people that base ...

There are still a lot of ifs and we don't know what we'll be talking about in terms of charges, but if we're talking only about that day, base d on what we know abpublicly, that d is not the sole focus. >> he knows it's not likely to be if there is an indictment. based on what we know is in the target letter, jack smith will be focusing on on actual january 6, 2021, but the weeks leading up to it when there was a coordinated effort to commit fraud and conspiracy to steal the election. i actually think the way it looks like -- again, all qu qualifiers here, but the way it looks like is going to...

S a proxy for an attack against a republican base. there's not enough voters that are anti-trump and still republican. asa hutchinson, to be able to do that alone, you're seeing the candidates really start at the baseline of defending trump because they simply know that's where the voter base is. the question will be does that shift as this goes along. some i talked to said the tacts might be the problem here. maybe not necessarily that he committed a crime, but he looks cavalier to national security. they can maybe use those things in a debate moment to attack donald trump, but the indictment...

Mishandling of documents, those are different in terms of volume. dozens of documents versus over 100. also the conduct. cooperation. possible obstruction. the types of questions prosecutors are asking, they are just asking about boxes and packing. the trump lawyers probably wish those were the questions they were asking about that investigation. and it's clear they believe the trump is in the court of public opinion. he didn't know the process or have to follow it. it's significant because it shows not only our report ing, but this is the testimony that they are getting in both cases from an ...

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