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Re-elected despite how all of the democratic candidates match up with trump that is a reversal from december of last year when by 13 points voters would say trump would lose. something is going right if they're predicting that at this point. joe biden does very well with the voters that help trump win. not as well as trump in a head-to-head matchup. but one in first president obama's 2012 white working class defected from the democrats in 2016. you have to have somebody who can bring those voters back. jessica, just a cautionary note, don't base enthusiasm in a liberal bastian like new york ci...

Places like oregon and new mexico. they claim they are actually serious about building coalitions to make inner cities and african american communities and hispanic communities but then you look at not just where the president is traveling but what he is saying and what he is doing and it is very clear so far at least he is running on a base enthusiasm and retention strategy which in a lot of ways does involve this red meat, these controversial statements and these racist statements and one thing people don't entirely understand is if you've gone to a trump rally and interviewed supporters in ...

The politics of this brian, ultimately are what explain the responses and even those republicans that did speak out, it has a lot to do with where they are coming from and background and states they represent. if you think about republicans that have been vocal of the president in the past, they are retired or completely turned in a different direction. so i would expect to see this kind of difficulty among a lot of republicans in criticizing the president going forward. >> let me ask you about the sheer politics of this, however hateful millions of americans found his words, is this really a ...

Election choice. this leaves no question who you're voting to reelect or not. >> well, this certainly offers a clear glimpse into the sort of campaign president trump is planning to run for reelection, which is, as far as we've seen, sort of stoking racial animus across the nation and it's nasa nating because you talk to his campaign, you talk to people in his world, advisors, and they claim they're trying to expand the map into places like oregon and new mexico. they claim they're actually serious about building coalitions to make inroads in inner cities, in african-american communities, in h...

I think frankly they, a lot of people in the trump camp see this as an opportunity to drive, continue to drive base enthusiasm and make sure those people are getting out to vote to create that energy because the worst thing in the world would be for that base to be somehow lethargic when it comes to the 2020 election. it clearly is not a strategy driven at independent voters but driven at continuing to animate that base and by the way, it's tied to the immigration dialogue. it's tied to other things which the president has seized on in recent weeks. so no, i don't think it's a strategy for ind...