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The president didn't really move opinion in his presidential address from the oval office. i'm sure he'd like another shot at that in an attempt to try to paint democrats in a corner here, which always the potential. i think we have to realize there are a lot of americans that are not paying the kind of attention to this as we, not keeping can score, are not aware of the past statements about trump saying i'll own the shutdown and they're just looking up at washington as the epicenter of dysfunction in the country and they're frustrated about it. but he would like another shot at that, to try ...

Announcing to his press secretary he's going to the border wall that he believes that's his leverage or at least that's his next step to get more leverage, so don't look for anything to happen over the next three days, i wouldn't think, because the democrats aren't going to raise their hand and say, let's settle this now, mr. president. i guarantee pollingwise with his base he is right in the sweet spot. if he cut a deal now, it would hurt him. is that where the president is, that again, we're talking in early 2019, we're talking about federal workers, we're talking about institutions shutting...

Disincentivized to budge because they are not going to fund a wall. nancy pelosi was very clear on this. i think we are farther away than we have been up and to this point, and you know, we can have working groups and stuff. it's up to donald trump. if donald trump does not commit to a deal, it's not going to happen. you can have as many meetings as you want. >> michael, donald trump always wants his cake and eat it too, can he le open the government and keep his wall fight going? >> i don't know. he is pursuing a base strategy in all this, but his own party has some divisions. i think democra...

Kentucky primaried mitch mcconnell nearly six years ago. he's got to worry about that too. i get why mitch mcconnell is as you said pulling the homer simpson. >> disappearing. >> it's the reason he wasn't at the white house. >> had he known he would have been there, of course. you choose what to hear from. >> he could not have gotten farther away from that place. he doesn't want to be a prt of that. he has done up to now what he saw his job as, hold his caucus together, and more or less ignore what donald trump is doing. he's in the center of this now, and this is going to put a tremendous amo...

Democrats. >> and the president threatened democrats, if they investigate him, he said i think that would help my campaign. if they want to play tough i will do it, and they will see how devastating those pages are. a bit of a threat there. and then, matt, this idea of presidential harassment if democrats were to launch an investigation, which, i don't know, maybe people look at congress doing their job, but we know checks and balances don't always weigh in for this president. >> i think you set it up perfectly by calling it a narrative. this is what donald trump does well politically, and it ...