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A whole administration was working overtime to try to end corruption in ukraine. it was professionals in the state department and an ambassador who requested that we be involved to try to get a prosecutor out of the way who was not able to move. that was an administration policy. >> it was. biden was implementing u.s. administration policy in the bright light of day, and as for trump saying that prosecutor was investigating the company paying hunter biden. that is false. that investigation was dormant. it was dormant. there was no digging going on, and then there's this part of the president...

Whether or not you believe that the president should be impeached is secondary to the process that is actually mandated in the constitution. it is not detailed in the constitution, but the concept of impeachment and the power of congress to undertake that proceeding is talked about, is authorized in the constitution. so this is a -- this is a hate the game not the player situation for the president. >> he fundamentally thinks that he is a king and that he cannot be questioned. if you do question him, you're going to get long letters with lots of exclamation points. it's really an unhinged, chi...

Taking care of a family emergency. there's a lot going on on the impeachment front up here. just within the last 30 minutes we've had congressman jeff van drew, the democrat soon to be republican member from new jersey who finally spoke to reporters for the first time since news of his imminent party switching broke out. he did not confirm the switch, but told me the only other issue that came to mind that he identifies with republicans on is american exceptionalism. he says democrats don't believe in it. that's not the kind of thing you say if you plan on remaining a democrat so i think we ca...

Was brought into the interrogation. >> oh, you were in the process of rolling this back and they still fired you? >> yes. i was using this as a way of starting a conversation with my co-workers about their rights. i didn't expect this change to stay there forever. i expected it to be controversial. and i think it will be useful in starting a conversation. >> so this is interesting, because the message you sent, and i just want to parse this for a second. googlers have the right to participate in protected, concerted activities. what did you mean by that? when you said protected, concerted acti...

Issue like this at all in my time up here, ali. it's really extraordinary. >> it is truly extraordinary. garrett haake for us on capitol hill. moments ago, as i said, president trump sent a remarkable letter to house speaker nancy pelosi about the impeachment debate in the house. the president wrote in his letter, quote, i have been deprived of basic constitutional due process from the beginning of this impeachment scam right up until the present. more due process was afforded to those accused in the salem witch trials. nbc's hans nichols joins us now from the white house. hans, it's an amazin...