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Because i have something at risk. i think this book needed to be written. i think we are facing a crisis of conservatism. we've got to get back to the principles of limited government, economic freedom, free trade, if we want to be a governing party. i think i just felt compelled to do it. i didn't tell my staff, i didn't tell my political advisers, i didn't want to be talked out of it. but i felt it was important. >> i talked to general michael hayden a while back and he talked about the thin veneer of civilization and we all think that it's thicker than it actually is. do you worry about tha...

A conservative is nothing if not, with foreign policy particularly, deliberal. i think our allies need that. certainly our adversaries need to hear that. and i'm concerned we don't have that >> how big do you think the credibility problem is? >> i have a chapter in the book, information, fake news and how we deal with it. it is a problem. exacerbated by social media and 24-hour news. it's tough to believe some of what we see. it used to be, there were truths that were self-evident, that we all believe in. now, that seems to be fleeting.

For that long. >> and donald trump was a big proponent of that, obviously. >> yeah. that was just -- just wrong and just hurtful and terrible. but people still clung to it. and so i -- yeah, i am concerned. that's just one conspiracy theory out there. there are many. and i talk about it in the book. i hope that there's a marked response. we certainly don't want to move in and try to censor what is printed or what is broadcast, that's not who we are, but i hope we can be more discerning. i think it's our responsibility as elected officials when we see things that are simply erroneous to call it...

I think that we've reached the limits of what we can do as republicans. we tried. we obviously need to reform and repeal whatever obamacare. it's not working in arizona on the exchange, i can tell you that. 200,000 arizonans will wake up tomorrow without insurance. it's too expensive. they're paying the fine, but they don't have insurance. so it desperately needs reform. i would have liked to have kept that reform alive. but now we're going to move in the committee process and do a bipartisan bill. that's the choice that we have now. >> i asked you about this a little bit before, but you are g...

Whatever the white house press core is doing or spokes people are doing, the reality is he is mislead investigators. >> we got to take a break. coming up the white house back as plan for legal immigration and a senior advisor went after acosta. we'll play that for you and later i'll speak with republican senator jeff blake who is so anti-trump he wrote a book about it. if you've been diagnosed with cancer,