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Institution of human interface. I think it is not surprising that we are spending more time talking to machines and humans themselves are systems that it make indicate human. You can watch this another like this at book tb. Org. And now on the afterwards program John Davenport talks about the relevance of religion. It is so good to see you, i want to to congratulate you on your new book, the how faithful people can change politics. Thank you very much it is good to be with you. I have to to say that i enjoy working on this book. I hope people enjoy reading that. Host i hope and i look forward ...

Enjoy reading it. I look forward to visiting with you a little bit about it. Hopefully creating a little interest because i think it is certainly a worthy read. You write in the prologue, prologue, when politics is broken, we should fix it. You describe religion and religious people as a gift to politics and that religion puts politics in its proper place. As someone who has lived a little bit of politics myself i know it can become allconsuming and it can become god. You tell a story in your 1982 reelection when you were running against harriet would. I almost lost it. Your family, and effort...

Wholesome lives. But it had to do with the common good and whether we as individuals put the good of the country ahead of our own interests. It was very, to me its fascinating that this is a point that was made particularly by james madison. Because madison was a great legal realist. He was really the architect of our constitution. He understood that everybody had interests, groups had interests. We have to balance interests to have a country that would function, but he also said that no matter how well structured our government is, our political system is, the country is not going to succeed....

When i was in graduate School Living on my own, i decided i should learn how cars work. I wanted to be selfreliant. I drove a 65 plymouth fury, dark bluegreen. It had a huge expansive windshield and a v8 engine. Which meant nothing to me. I knew how to pump gas and check the oil and change a flat tire but that was about it. My father had discouraged me from learning anything about the workings of the internal combustion engine. When i said i wanted to learn how cars work, he said its easy, ill tell you everything you need to know. You put the key in ignition and to turn it. Thanks, dad. So i t...

Thats what kept us going. Thank you so much. Thank you cspan always so kind. God bless you, my brother. That was afterwards book fs Signature Program in which authors of the latest and nonfiction bookser interviewed. Watch past programs at booktv. Org. Now a reair of an afterwards program. Former missouri senator John Dan Don Furth looks at the role religion can play in partisan politics. Interviewed by tim hutchinson. So good to see you and i want to congratulate you on your new book, the relevance of religion, how faithful people can change politics. I have to say i enjoyed working on this b...