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Will be able to present the evidence that what i am doing is the thing that governors were empowered to do. that is to keep the people of their safe while at the same time holding the biden administration accountable to follow the laws, the immigration laws passed by the united states congress. >> ben: i know that you are a politician and policy maker you also have the perspective as a leader on what the biden administration, the biden-harris administration actually wants when it comes to the border. do they want this? is this the outcome that they would like to be seeing? because it has to be...

Like president obama winning the peace -- nobel peace prize. >> ben: i had forgotten about the emmy. i have to admit. it's so ridiculous. dana, before we go, i wanted to ask you, do you think there is going to be any real consequences for andrew cuomo politically because of this or is the left experience somebody like governor ralph northam you just power through and you can get through almost anything because the left and the media is going to be there for you at the end of the day? >> i think it's a little bit of both. i don't think that democrats are going to part with him until it's most a...

Toolbox doing things that no other governor has ever done before in the history of the united states. one thing we are working on is to build our own border wall, another thing that we are doing is we have a program where we are arresting and jailing people who are trespassing coming across the border in the state of texas. the biden administration will catch and release. texas will arrest and jail. and then also, in response to the biden administration releasing covid positive immigrants into cities, into the state of texas, i issued an executive order trying to prevent the biden administrati...

What civilization requires. you are the heart of a nation that has slept for so long. but now at last, you are wide awake. so now i ask you again, what are you willing to do? joining me now is someone from the frontlines of the exploding border crisis. texas governor greg abbott. governor, thanks so much for joining me tonight. >> sure, ben, my pleasure. thank you. >> ben: governor, i think what we are seeing play out in the terms of the challenges you are facing is something that we never wanted to see happen again. it's the kind of explosion and kind of, i think, ignorance toward a border po...

Him to be vaccinated he said i have the same immunity you have and all the scientific evidence and my doctor says i don't need it. so i think that will be an interesting lawsuit. because even in the old days when they say oh, well, everybody had a passport, you know, for small pox. do you know what the exception was, if you had visible pox you didn't have to take the vaccine and that was your passport to travel. >> ben: you know, senator, i fear as i know that you are concerned about that we are going to see a permanent pandemic reality in america where all of this is used to essentially have ...