he s abandoned the tpp trade deal and threatening to do the same. these moves have spurred governors to take on a new international profile among them. asa hutchinson says his tour of europe last month was to reassure business leaders there, same with the virginia governor. and the governors of vermont and nebraska have made multiple trips to canada about continuing to trade the countries. to talk more about this, i want to bring you guys back. ben you first, is this a big departure for governors and lawmakers too. particularly governors to kind of out front on the international side. it s a smart move for many governors doing this. there are several governors that have been proactive when it
the program are hugely popular, you re not going to get rid of them, even republicans won t do, until this thing crashes down, and republicans are forced, they don t want to do it, but forced into negotiating a plan that all americans can live with, that s the answer. does anyone doubt that? here s the thing, though. show me a democrat that s genuinely been willing in the senate. in the senate. let s just for a second even with democrats even when democrats had a much better standing with barack obama in the white house, they refused to deal with the problem how do you know? there were more problems than obama care. how do you know? you wouldn t start, you wouldn t let him in the room. ben, listen no, you wouldn t let him in the room. paul tried. democrats refused to move on obama care, to change anything to it, because it was their signature bill, and nancy pelosi and harry reid didn t have any conversation okay.